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Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Floorguy1, Dec 4, 2014.

  1. MrEd

    MrEd Road Train Member

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    How can they speak toward rule changes in any meaningful way, when it is patently obvious that they have no idea what the rules are now.
     
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  3. Jerry12

    Jerry12 Heavy Load Member

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    87.5 hours of driving in 8 days or 192 hours;

    Academically speaking, there are 192 hours in 8 days. After working your 70 hours then using the 34 hour restart & while using the Text Book method where that total number of hours allowed to work during an 8 day period can add up to more than 70 hours...if ur industrious enuff & fill out your logbook correctly.

    11 (hours driving) + .5 (break) + 10 (sleeper berth) =21.5 hours, per each work unit x 6 (days) = 69 total work hours covered during 129 hours.

    + 34 hour restart, = equals 163 hours.

    Resuming your 70 hour work week: Whereas, 11 (hours driving) +.5 (8 hour rest break) + 10 (sleeper berth) = total hours in a day= 21.5 hour period.

    Leaving a remainder of 7.5 hours left to legally drive over this period of 8 days or 192 hours= 87.5 hours total driving hours. (approx)

    gruesome driving week. (cough, cough...of course you'll need to log vehicle inspections & fuel stops which will decrease your 87.5 hours of driving.)

    Aint the way it use to be...back in the day it was a clean 70 hours and you called it quits during 8 days...i liked that alot, then if you hit your 70 within 5 days...you had mandatory time off until 8 days has been reached. not these days...real stupid administrators.
     
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  4. Floorguy1

    Floorguy1 Light Load Member

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    I'm still new and I'll admit I still don't know crap. I know enough to be dangerous. But I do know when I'm tired. The company I work for really pushes safety. My dispatcher don't give me unrealistic appointment times. If there is a "hot" load they ask me if I'm up for it. There has been one trip where I was really tired and my eyes getting heavy and all I did was find a rest area and take a 40 minute cat nap. Got up and felt like a new man.

    I guess my opinion is that if I want to stay out for a few weeks and make some great money I should be allowed to. I understand there should be limitations to how many hours I drive a day but It should be up to me how many days I want to drive. If I'm tired I'll say I'm done for a few days. If I want to run let me run ( safely of course)

    edit: I have not needed a baby sitter in many years. I know when to go to bed. Shut all the electronics off and get 6-8 hours of sleep and people wouldn't get fatigued so often
     
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  5. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

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    You can legally drive 82 hours in 7 days under the current regulations -- you just can't do 82 hour weeks back to back which no one ever did anyway. The real problem is the 1-5am provision which ##### over night drivers, adds to congestion, & reduces nighttime truck parking.
     
  6. CargoWahgo

    CargoWahgo Road Train Member

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    Boooooo.....

    Let's reduce it to 40 hrs like everyone else and see the fun ensue ;)

    Daytime driving :shudders:
    Why would anyone otr bother.

    Ick
    Yuck
    :puke:
     
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  7. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I think that the 82 hr thing is part of the scare tactics being used by so called "safety" groups such as Public Safety. When the industry complained about the rule saying only one restart per week (168hrs) these safety groups tried to show how the old rule was letting us drive 82 hours a week. They showed a log book example where that could be done and implied most truckers were running like this. Of course in this example, the driver didn't have time to do any loading, unloading, fuel or other line 4 activities. It's a scare tactic they are using trying to sway the general public, the FMCSA and Congress into restricting our available hours. more than they have. Note that the primary funding of the anti-truck groups is a railroads trade group.
     
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  8. G/MAN

    G/MAN Road Train Member

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    If you want to have some impact on these proposed rules, you need to write a note or call your congressional representative. You can also post a comments on the fmcsa website. It does little good to complain to fellow truckers. Follow up your dissatisfaction with any proposed rules in which you disagree with letters and emails to the fmcsa. If enough take the time to make their opinions known, it can have an impact. I guarantee you that the opposition will take time to push their agenda and their agenda is not usually in our best interests.
     
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  9. joseph1135

    joseph1135 Papa Murphy

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    None of you have any idea what you're talking about when it comes to HOS. So stop. and as a matter of fact, the DOT who is responsible for enforcing the HOS laws have no idea what they're enforcing, and the comoanues responsible for making sure their drivers are within the HOS laws have no idea and neither do the people writing the laws about HOS. It is amazing that we (the UNSKILLED drivers) have to figure out how to comply with laws that are ever changing and literally change meaning depending on what the DOT officer actually knows about them.
     
  10. Lucar

    Lucar Road Train Member

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    Ridiculous. Why cant we f***** unite and stop and change this nonsense?
    What is it gonna take for YOU out there to start standing up for your work needs?
    Don't you spend already too much time away from home?
    This industry is nothing but a bunch of selfish and cry babies, either do something about it or stop talking about it.
     
  11. dca

    dca Road Train Member

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    I say raise it to 16 hr shifts and a round of drinks for everybody
     
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