PTSD, DOT Physicals and FMCSA regulations

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  1. 25(2)+2

    25(2)+2 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I think there isn't anything in the regulations other than what is covered under the medical qualifications.

    Insurers and lawyers have found it grounds for grounding drivers, but I haven't seen much discussion of a sufferer deciding to drive CMVs for a living after the diagnosis. I'm sure there probably have been such discussions carried on.


    Many suffer PTSD to some degree; the question is the degree and how well the person is coping.
     
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  3. moloko

    moloko Road Train Member

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    Thanks for the only legit response in this entire thread.
     
  4. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    Every response you got was equally "legit" (as you put it)...and since "52" did not include any links or pictures of the regulations covering mental/physical disorders that could potentially disqualify a driver, or a link or pictures of the listing of medications (psychotropic or any other prescribed medication) that could be used to determine any disqualification..."52's" response was not "legit" either. How is that you ask? Because he did not "back up" his response, just like the others, he offered an opinion...and obviously, it was right on target to what you wanted to hear/read.

    The section of the code that you are searching for is actually very vague...391.41, sub section (8 ) and (9)....to get any in depth accuracy of the qualifying or disqualifying parameters, you would need to contact a certified FMCSA physician, or contact the medical revue committee at the FMCSA.

    And, BTW....25(2) + 2 isn't really a Squaddie....he's just another number in disguise! (inside joke in case you're confused!):biggrin_25525:
     
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  5. 25(2)+2

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    The regulations are very vague, and people have argued this forever, although without much effect, not so much the classic PTSD definition of battlefield trauma, as the everyday things that happen to someone somewhere, like being involved in an incident beyond your control that you have to deal with. There are no ready answers to that, and sources that may be quoted are really only opinions, too.

    Only a professionally trained person with a Psychologist designation , or higher, is qualified to judge a case involving any individual, unless it gets to a court. Many officers of the court tend to defer to the judgement of someone considered qualified.


    That leaves many who may have a reason to have an opinion as being irrelevant. Otherhalftw is right and also just as wrong as the rest of us.
     
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  6. moloko

    moloko Road Train Member

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    so basically, in a practical sense, this is not going to be medically disqualifying 99 percent of the time. Right?
     
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    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    As is commonly the case...the certifying Dr. has only the background information given to him/her from the prospective driver. It would be the prospective driver offering too much information for a Dr. to come to a conclusion that the PTSD was intense enough to disqualify. As to the medication being taken, this could be an issue with the local DMV, certain medications, in certain states, require a physician to notify the DMV of any patient being given a prescription of specific disqualifying medications. So the DMV could have the information and not be able to issue a drivers license, including a CDL.
     
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    There are a lot of vets out there that have PTSD and are great drivers. PTSD comes in many shapes and sizes, and to assume this is a crippling disease for all who have it, is plain ignorant. The op's original question was completely on topic, for your response was not.
     
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    Let me ask another question. If you casually mention to your boss that you could have some mild PTSD, and that you are not on medication, are they within their rights to DQ you from driving pending a DOT physical ? And what if this is on addition to your boss being upset about you for other issues. Would you feel that this is just a way to basically suspend an employee, and the physical is superficial ? ;)
     
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    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    First; if the employee in question is already a driver, then the DOT physical was completed satisfactorily.

    Second; this industry for the most part, unless in a union shop, is "at will employment". Which means, any employee can be terminated at any time without cause.

    Third; if the person you work for is that pathetic, why would you want to work there?
     
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    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    Almost forgot...the "DOT Physical" is the farthest thing from an actual physical you can ever find. If you can walk and remain upright...you should be able to pass! Obesity is a real problem these days for the sleep apnea issue...but otherwise....my first part remains fact!
     
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