Trimac vs Schneider Bulk

Discussion in 'Tanker, Bulk and Dump Trucking Forum' started by ethos, Jun 15, 2014.

  1. Stormdriven

    Stormdriven Medium Load Member

    331
    217
    Mar 11, 2014
    south, central, US.
    0
    Your not a liar Coyote.

    They lost Me about 1 year ago.

    Figured I could make about the same $ working at the local burger doodle.

    Don't know anything about that making the ic's payments for them ?
     
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. Handog

    Handog Light Load Member

    99
    85
    Sep 19, 2013
    0
    I'd say based on my experience that's a fair assessment. ICs can do okay but you shouldn't have to lease one of their trucks to bring home a decent, steady pay check. I remember being disappointed with my miles then seeing a message come over the Qualcomm welcoming the new twelve drivers on our team.
    Im getting paid by the hour now so I don't mind lay-overs. :biggrin_25523:
     
  4. slim shady

    slim shady Road Train Member

    3,459
    14,410
    Sep 14, 2011
    Chicago, Il.
    0
    I run into Schneider bulk guys all the time, and see the same local drivers often never discussed pay with them but them just usual driver talk, Really never hear them complain about working g there, So maybe sni bulk is better for local drivers
     
  5. wsyrob

    wsyrob Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

    5,769
    5,462
    Sep 14, 2007
    Winston Salem
    0
    Just heard an add on Sirius this morning saying Schnieder had just raised O/O and company driver pay $4,000 and company drivers can make up to 82K. They wouldn't lie would they.
     
  6. 77fib77

    77fib77 Road Train Member

    8,583
    48,941
    Jul 7, 2010
    St Louis
    0
    Thats a perfect year I would assume. I have talked to a hand full of van drivers who clear little over 400 a week their first six months.

    Way Togo SNI
     
  7. wsyrob

    wsyrob Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

    5,769
    5,462
    Sep 14, 2007
    Winston Salem
    0
    That and the raise the add talks about happened over a year ago but they run the adds like it was yesterday.
     
  8. Handog

    Handog Light Load Member

    99
    85
    Sep 19, 2013
    0
    Wow! Thats 42k more than I made there last year.
     
    Last edited: Dec 13, 2014
  9. ethos

    ethos Road Train Member

    4,246
    9,886
    Mar 3, 2013
    Houston
    0
    You can't blame a company for gaining capacity when they can and the number of drivers is not the only factor in load availability. I know for a fact that Houston was oversold just yesterday. However, this is a popular complaint about Schneider. Just because they were oversold doesn't mean they were oversold with good loads.

    I think the industry is going to have to fully embrace the minimum pay idea. It's no wonder we can't keep new blood in because if they have a bad week they may not even get a paycheck. 138 dollars is what I make for a day of layover or breakdown, it's not enough but it way better than 65. A man can't live in 65 bucks a day. Think about it though, say you were guaranteed say 800 a week no matter what. Would take a lot of stress of you wouldn't it? Make the job pretty decent.

    I make enough that if I hit a bad week and for whatever reason get no pay then I'll be okay because of what I've saved up. I make really good money, I don't need a minimum. But let's be honest, Trimac doesn't have room for everyone, in fact we are not hiring till after the first of the year at the earliest.

    I just see the minimum as the only logical and doable fix. We are never going to be salary, one major reason being H.O.S and another being the ability to call a road or piece of equipment unsafe. It would basically breed laziness for a lot of drivers. We are never, ever going to hourly, I know some drivers are and if you're OTR and hourly then good for you. According to my inside people at Schneider hourly pay is the most expensive option and something the company literally couldn't do and keep the doors open. I've talked at length about the issue of driver pay and how inadequate cpm pay is when the company isn't giving enough miles. According to them the idea of a minimum has been floated, hopefully we will see it soon. Hopefully it's an industry standard soon.
     
    realsupatrucka and Time4Change Thank this.
  10. wsyrob

    wsyrob Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

    5,769
    5,462
    Sep 14, 2007
    Winston Salem
    0
    How would you like it if Trimac hired a bunch of new drivers and cut your pay by 25%. Would you still say "You can't blame a company for gaining capacity when they can"? Believe me they could but they are smart enough not to.

    That layover pay is essentially the same as a guarantee. 5 days at $138 would be $690. I get $155 for a layover day which works out to $775 if they can't find me work. Only time you don't get it is when you are at home. That's what vacation and personal days are for. Its automatic for us anytime we sit more than 14 hours. You don't have to fight for it. We get it for restarts in company paid hotels. I wouldn't want a guaranteed weekly minimum because the company would always want the full week. I like my occasional 5 day weekends.

    $65/24hr is an insult and from reading the threads you have to fight to get it.
     
    Handog Thanks this.
  11. ethos

    ethos Road Train Member

    4,246
    9,886
    Mar 3, 2013
    Houston
    0
    I don't know why you took offense to that statement. Cutting pay by 25% is just a figure you pulled out of your butt. Yes, you can't blame a company for gaining capacity when it can and you have no proof that more drivers are causing the lack of miles. It could be a switch to more regional work. Adding more capacity maybe a sales tool to get more lucrative routes. If you can run a company better then do so, don't just nitpick, that's easy.

    Trimac doesn't hire more drivers because they are smart, they aren't hiring drivers because they don't want to invest in more equipment at the moment, ask me how I know. Most companies will expand if capital isn't an issue and when is that the case. Thinking that the only reason they are not adding drivers is because they are smart is naive, any company will look to expand, capacity is king these days. It's going to be king for a while.
    Again, I'm not going to just believe you when I just had this conversation with my boss because I was trying to get Firespock on here. My boss is a smart guy but either can't or won't invest in more trucks at the moment. He said himself he wants to grow but is limited right now, meaning all trucks are full and we don't want to buy new ones.

    Layover can be used as a guarantee sure, but what about those weeks where you only get short hauls or those weeks where the loads work out to where you just miss layover. Guarantees work better all around.

    We agree that 65 dollars is pathetic for layover. No excuse for that policy.
     
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.