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G.Anthony · Dec 17, 2014

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I didnt base it on anything, but on the application it asks for a criminal back ground check. I assumed there for they dont want any one with a criminal back ground.
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ok, true. Some companies, and I think that for the longest time, Werner Enterprises, had a lifetime ban on felonies. Now if they have changed that, I do not know.

Any one is insane that thinks it ok to destroy some ones property, because they didnt get a load and lost it to some one else. As far as certified training, I would have the CDL A class that would be enough. Of course the the insurance will be higher, but it is still obtainable.
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it's the way it is out there. You do have "insane" people that takes things personally, or shall I say, "take the food off the table from thier kids", and as a result, they WILL do just about anything to get even.

As for meeting people such as , that think its ok to run around and bust people stuff that make you mad, than your right. If the majority of the people I meet are like that, I and they keep busting all my stuff, and stealing all my stuff, and are just generally evil people. I will collect the insurance money from that act, let the police do what ever, and move on. I am not sure why you are getting so angry lol, threatening my life and property, over my question.
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Well first of all, I think that most insurance companies have a deductible, so how much you can or will collect, is determined by that.

I am NOT the one threatening you, please get your sheet straight. I am simply telling you what "could happen" if you under bid some drivers.

I am NOT mad or angry with you, but you seem not to be smart enough to understand things. You seem to me to have "an attitude problem" and an "issues' problem, and think that your plan is either excellent or wonderful. Far from it, is all I can say. Hell, you went and said schools won't take you because of your felony, when in fact, you never really checked into it, because if you did? You wouldn't have said that.

Good luck, I'm out of this one.
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Makasouleater · Dec 21, 2014

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Makasouleater said: ↑

ok, true. Some companies, and I think that for the longest time, Werner Enterprises, had a lifetime ban on felonies. Now if they have changed that, I do not know.

it's the way it is out there. You do have "insane" people that takes things personally, or shall I say, "take the food off the table from thier kids", and as a result, they WILL do just about anything to get even.

Well first of all, I think that most insurance companies have a deductible, so how much you can or will collect, is determined by that.

I am NOT the one threatening you, please get your sheet straight. I am simply telling you what "could happen" if you under bid some drivers.

I am NOT mad or angry with you, but you seem not to be smart enough to understand things. You seem to me to have "an attitude problem" and an "issues' problem, and think that your plan is either excellent or wonderful. Far from it, is all I can say. Hell, you went and said schools won't take you because of your felony, when in fact, you never really checked into it, because if you did? You wouldn't have said that.

Good luck, I'm out of this one.
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I know you said your out, but i just had to call you out again.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVrtjX9aPkM, according to this experienced guy, big carriers have been undercutting people for a while to put them out of business. Yet I dont hear anything about your concept of them getting hunted down, and having their 300k BMW broken. Yet your saying if i try to make it as a O/O, and go low on my load just to compete with big carriers, because i decided i want to be a O/O regardless, I am gonna be hunted down.
Yeah dude I am sorry, but you being retiring age, acting like this is just wrong, you sound like one of these people i hear in youtube videos on the CB screaming they are gonna kick peoples ##### over the cb. No offence but most of the truck drivers are fat and lazy. Some even #### in bags and throw it on the road, and piss in bottles. High up people in the industry call truck drivers a un skilled, un educated work force, yet you think people are gonna hunt me down.
As for me I decided not even to go the route of O/O, or OTR. Due to reading about all the sick drivers, pissing in bottles ect, prostitutes, Fed ex drivers being shot, guys leaving their trucks at the gas pump line for 45 mins while they eat, CB trolls, no pay while you sit and arent driving, treated like garbage and a replaceable commodity, OTR being number 8 on the most dangerous jobs, being gone all the time and that looked at as nothing, cars trying to get insurance fraud by pulling in front of you, complete lack of respect from normal drivers, complete lack of respect from truck drivers, and the list goes on...........
As for my attitude, all i asked way why some one would tell me to go to a trucking school. As i read futher into this, going to trucking school is a terrible terrible terrible idea, and is the bottom pit of how to be a truck driver. Your gonna get a ###### job, your gonna make barely any money, in some cases have bad trucks, your gonna get pared with a random trainer that could get you in trouble in some cases, and to top it off they expect you to pay in some cases 6 grand.
So yes, if your dead broke, have terrible credit, have no one to teach you, going to a trucking school is a good choice. Telling some one who can afford to buy their own truck, and has a experienced truck driver to teach them to drive, to go to a trucking school, is not only bad advice, its out right petty. The only reason i can see a experienced truck driver telling some one who can afford to buy a rig out right, and have some one they know teach them how to drive, to forget all that and go to a trucking school, is because they want them to go through #### like they had to. Unless your gonna tell me that all this information out there is wrong... Rookies getting out of trucking school, get paid well, are well respected by all, and all coming out of driving school are good drivers.
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G.Anthony · Dec 21, 2014

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Unless your gonna tell me that all this information out there is wrong... Rookies getting out of trucking school, get paid well, are well respected by all, and all coming out of driving school are good drivers.
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Ok, you go with that. Let me know in about 1 to 3 years, if you're still in the business, or if you even got started "doing it your way".

frank_the_tank · Dec 21, 2014

getting your CDL "unconventionally" is one thing (ie. without a high dollar drawn out school). however, IMO you are INSANE to go full blown O/O right out of the gate. get 6 months or a year beating on someone elses stuff to see if trucking is for you. run some northeast. run some mountains in the winter. the internet cant teach what it feels like to have the seat sucked up into your backside while coming down an icy grade. I didn't go to a "school" either. basically a 2 grand 10 hour "truck rental" with an old school retired driver. the knowledge and skill needed to obtain the license is very minimal. your first day on the job is when the learning begins... I still feel like a rookie almost daily. every day is a new lesson.
oh yeah, my old man has also been driving for 20 some years, that certainly didn't make me a trucker..

Makasouleater · Dec 21, 2014

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getting your CDL "unconventionally" is one thing (ie. without a high dollar drawn out school). however, IMO you are INSANE to go full blown O/O right out of the gate. get 6 months or a year beating on someone elses stuff to see if trucking is for you. run some northeast. run some mountains in the winter. the internet cant teach what it feels like to have the seat sucked up into your backside while coming down an icy grade. I didn't go to a "school" either. basically a 2 grand 10 hour "truck rental" with an old school retired driver. the knowledge and skill needed to obtain the license is very minimal. your first day on the job is when the learning begins... I still feel like a rookie almost daily. every day is a new lesson.
oh yeah, my old man has also been driving for 20 some years, that certainly didn't make me a trucker..
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It would if he saved his money during those 20 years, bought his only semi and taught you how to drive it. You guys make it sound like owning a tractor trailer making you some kind of millionaire. The average person could own a semi for how cheap they go. But if you feel the need to pay some one 6 thousand to teach u, what am i going to say.... A CDL is as easy to get as a d class, if you have the equipment, and study how to operate it. Which is why truck driving is considered a non educated, non skilled occupation.
Running a business making money is a bit harder.

This is to Anthony. I will be in the business in 3 years, because I want to drive a 18 wheeler. I mean you make it sound like it something along the lines of launching a rocket to mars..... Driving a 18 wheeler has its difficulty's of course, but it aint nothing compare to launching a rocket to the end of the rock planets.
I dont know what else to say to Anthony, truck driving, and even O/O isnt that hard.... its actually quite simple math. Your talk about people breaking ####, is wrong, your talk of not getting a license unless you go to school is wrong, your talk about getting a job with out going to a trucking school is just wrong......

Makasouleater · Dec 21, 2014

As for me I have got enough from the internet to know what trucking is, and what i need to do to do what i want. You can learn alot from other people, any one who tells you other wise is a idiot.

G.Anthony · Dec 22, 2014

ok, you go with all of what you said, or are about to say.....buh-byeeeee

VTSharpshooter · Dec 22, 2014

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Ok, you go with that. Let me know in about 1 to 3 years, if you're still in the business, or if you even got started "doing it your way".
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OP: I second that. Why are you here if you don't want to listen to anyone?

If you really know what you claim to know, why waste time here?

"A fool and his money are soon parted."

crzyjarmans · Dec 22, 2014

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I have alot more to learn, I got about 3 more months before i go and obtain my CDL, buy a truck, trailer get dot, mc, insurance, duel tax, llc ect. I am confused though, I see alot of people saying that i shouldent do it this way, I should go sign up for one of these driving schools, and not have my dad whos been a truck driver for the last 20 years teach me. Also getting signed on to one of these big companies ect, when I have enough money to buy all the truck, insurance, 90 days operating costs, llc, fees ect, and effectively be a O/O. Is this because they all want me to go through ####? From everything I have read, and viewed the truck driving schools are terrible, in some cases out right fraud, making you pay money and just teaching you nothing. All this information from what i see is absolutely free, all over the internet, from how to drive a truck, all the laws about the road, even people recorded the lessons them selves, and share them.
I dont see how any one could recommend to some one, yeah go be the ##### at the trucking company. It looks like the new guys get treated like garbage, crap loads, no pay, forced to work to hard ect ect ect. I mean I am not looking to make alot the first years, or maybe not even for the whole thing. But i dont see how not being a O/O from the start if you have the money, is not recommend. From all the load boards I see out there, I am sure some one will give a new O/O a load. Not to mention some of the smaller businesses ect, so i dont see any lack of work. Maybe I only get 10 cents a mile profit, or even no profit to undercut the person to get the experience, but what ever. Looking for seat time in that aspect.
So to recap, my question is why would some one recommend, not being a O/O if you have the money to buy a truck and trailer, I dont mean lease or rent, or get a loan, I mean buy.
Thanks for any information.
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Nothing wrong learning from your dad, but the insurance part is correct, you may find it hard to get coverage with no experience, before any purchases, call insurances tell them your experience, and see if they will cover you, it takes more than money to complete this task, good luck

crzyjarmans · Dec 22, 2014

OP? I read you said obtaining insurance is possible? Please let me know what insurance company accepted you, I have a friend who just got his CDL A, and bought a truck, he couldn't find one, he is working for the company I do, I'll pass him this info so he can put his truck to work, thanks, your vast knowledge in this industry must be abundance

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