What makes one brand of trucks heavier than the other ?

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by tommymonza, Jan 3, 2015.

  1. tommymonza

    tommymonza Road Train Member

    4,519
    12,849
    Sep 10, 2013
    S.W. Florida
    0
    New to this game and I hear where one truck brand is so much heavier than the other Example Kenworths and old 389s so much heavier than other trucks.



    Where is the extra weight if they are the same wheelbase and Engine . Is the frame built that much heavier on some or is it all in the cab.

    From what I have gathered it is thousands not hundreds in differences we are talking.

    How does it ad up?

    how much lighter and how are they saving the weight in the lightweight trucks these days?
     
    Last edited: Jan 4, 2015
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. PurplePete

    PurplePete Light Load Member

    131
    24
    Nov 15, 2011
    Tyler, Mn
    0
    Plastics, fiberglass & other composites. Newer cheaper trucks use a lot less metal parts.
    The 379 is all aluminum, the 389 is not.
     
  4. BUMBACLADWAR

    BUMBACLADWAR Road Train Member

    1,899
    1,923
    Dec 5, 2013
    0
    STEEL ,thick frames
     
  5. jason6541

    jason6541 Road Train Member

    2,425
    5,367
    Mar 5, 2012
    Omaha, NE
    0
    My truck is 21,520 lbs bobtail. I ordered extra cab/sleeper insulation, apu, heavy duty suspension, and large fuel tanks, auto tire chains and every bell and whistle that kw had. So no i didn't buy some throw away stripped down fleet truck junk.

    But yes the fleets save weight with no insulation packages, light weight frames, the smallest/lightest engines, also the smallest fuel tanks seen some with one 75 gallon tank on an otr truck, driver was stopping several times a day,bare minimums as far as convenience features, the smallest sleeper they think they can get some driver to live in for months at a time.
     
    Last edited: Jan 4, 2015
  6. uncleal13

    uncleal13 Road Train Member

    3,797
    6,299
    Apr 9, 2009
    Humboldt, Sk
    0
    My 2013 Western Star weighs close to 23,000. It's spec'd for heavy haul. 46,000 rears, double frame, 150 gal tanks, 23 gal DEF tank, 24.5 tires, insulated cab, sleeper and floor.
    My last truck 2006 Century Class only weighed 18,600 lbs but it couldn't stand up to the heavy loads and the rough roads I go on, although when I first got it I was going to the U.S. so it was perfect for that.
    It all depends on your application.
     
  7. swaan

    swaan Road Train Member

    2,942
    4,376
    Jul 12, 2009
    BC canada
    0
    Ya exaclly!!
    i got a 2012 WS. And a buddy has a FL Columbia. All you got to do is close the door on a FL then shut the door on a WS. No comparison if you ask me. It's like comparing a pop can to a bottle of baileys. Lol!!
     
  8. SmokinCAT

    SmokinCAT Road Train Member

    1,773
    1,488
    Oct 20, 2010
    Hillsboro, OH./ Adrian, MI
    0
    Quality materials make a big difference compared to the throw away trucks.
     
    Davidlee and SHO-TYME Thank this.
  9. T800H

    T800H Medium Load Member

    608
    296
    Apr 2, 2010
    The Keys
    0
    A guy I know used to have a day can short wheel base Volvo with a big cam, bare bones truck, steel tanks and wheels, not big tanks at all, with fuel for a day it will weight almost a 21,000 lbs, the heaviest truck I've ever seen, generally speaking, as far as I know KW always being heavy and Liners seem to be the lightest must times, so there might be an indication of quality vs weight.
     
  10. Starboyjim

    Starboyjim Road Train Member

    2,039
    1,425
    Dec 10, 2011
    Weed, CA
    0
    I guess you're all talking about dual axle trucks? Tag axles save a lot of weight. Some companies run them and haul heavier loads. Please don't think I want to run a tag axle truck, but they're one of the options on weight. I think you can run almost 50K loads with small fuel tanks and tag axles.
     
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.