Navajo express

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  1. Screwdriversg

    Screwdriversg Light Load Member

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    Can any current drivers give me the inside infomation on Navajo express.. Was looking at them . Have been a driver for awhile,just like their locations they have terminals at.. Are they worth going to or am I wasting my time.. Thanks for all info good or bad, then I can pick through it all..do they use e-logs or still on paper and what is their length of their hauls... Tks for any information
     
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  3. Jonrulerofearth

    Jonrulerofearth Light Load Member

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    You can search for information on them on this website.
     
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  4. Screwdriversg

    Screwdriversg Light Load Member

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    Are you talking about this website here
     
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    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    Send a PM to WitchingHour, he works for Navajo.
     
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  6. zincman

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    yes, he is. Go up to the top of the page, Type Navajo Express (or just Navajo) in the search bar, and the results will come through. Look on the right side and if you see a lot of "Bad Trucking Company" come up, chances are real good that you'll want to avoid them. But it can still be a real eye opener to see what others have said about them.

    And for Heaven's sake, heed the advice of those who have many years of experience when they say, "Don't go to work here". If bad fortune has happened to others, rest assured it'll happen to you as well!

    Hope this helps... :)
     
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  7. killaforniaxcowboy

    killaforniaxcowboy Bobtail Member

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    ok so I've worked at Navajo Express now for the last 4 months. I'm going to try and give you my most honest appraisal. I'm not the type to sit in trash company especially if I'm just disgruntled but I am going to keep it real and tell you exactly what you can expect. the good the bad and everything in between and if anybody takes exception to anything that I say please let me know where I'm wrong because these are my experiences and I'm not sugar coating anything or lying about anything I've been through. let's start with the pros.

    for starters you will definitely run more miles than you will at swift Werner CR England CRST or any of the other major companies that hire new recruits. when I was working at swift I only averaged about a thousand miles a week. You can easily run double that at Navajo even as a new driver. In fact, even on my worst weeks I still made more money than I ever did at Swift, thanks in part to a slightly higher CPM and the per diem program, which in my opinion has been nothing but beneficial. I know that there are some drivers who are against per diem but I am NOT one of those drivers because I have had nothing but good things come out of it. More money in my paychecks and the benefit of getting my tax return throughout the year rather than all at once at the end of the year. In my opinion tax returns are just savings account for people with no discipline, and if you have the discipline to manage your own money per diem can be a great way to put more money in your pocket. I've also found Navajo to be mostly fair when it comes to dealing with their trainees. Although I was an experienced driver I had a period of absence from the industry and as a result I had to go on board with a trainer for 2 weeks. The first trainer I had was awful so much so that I was debating whether or not I even wanted to stay with the company. I had contacted my student coordinator and told him that I wanted to quit based upon certain incidents that had happened during training. Not only was I asked not to quit but I was treated extremely fairly and given to another trainer who was much better. The training pay at Navajo is also very fair. I was given 90 dollars a day whether or not the truck ran in comparison to Swift which paid me 8 dollars an hour for every hour that I was driving or on duty. I was averaging over $600 a week as a trainee with Navajo, at swift I was lucky to get 200 a week. If you're a new driver or considering getting into the industry after coming out of truck driving school this is probably one of the best training companies that you can come to.after about 2 or 3 weeks of training I was put into my own truck. This unfortunately, is where some of my negative experiences started to come into play. The first and biggest problem with Navajo is that there is very little drop and hook. Most of the accounts that we work for leave us sitting for a very long time. it is not uncommon to wait 3 or 4 hours shipper, and then have to fight for your detention pay. to date, I have never once received any sort of detention pay, although I have sat at shippers for more than 2 to 3 hours more times than I can count on both hands. another big bone of contention for me was the Western 11 promise. They tell you from the gate that whether or not you're a student or an experienced driver you will be able to run Western 11 as soon as you get into your own solo vehicle. Well unfortunately that is not true. It all depends upon who you get as a driver manager and a load planner. If your driver manager decides that he wants you to run 48 States and you will have to run 48 states there is no other way around it. Another issue is the home time. You are told and recruiting that she will be able to get home every two weeks if need be because they have the miles to keep you running and you will be able to get all of your miles and make money and still get home within a two week period. that is only half true. Yes, you can get home if you absolutely need to but they absolutely do discourage you from going home if it hasn't been within 3 weeks from your last home time. And even then if it has been 3 weeks you still have to fight for a load to get you home. I've taken loads home on home time that deliver a day after I get home. My only option was to send in the delay macro stating that I was supposed to be on home time, which in turn risks a service failure for late delivery.they tell you that the trucks they have our new. Well that is only half true they do have some new trucks but chances are as a new driver you will be in a truck that is at least 3 years old and does not have an APU.it is also extremely hard to get in touch with anybody as most of the phone numbers in extensions you get either lead to voicemails have no voice mail at all or run you around in circles. I have found it is best to use your Qualcomm device if you need to get in touch with anybody in Denver. For the most part everybody is extremely helpful when it comes to pay and payroll. I have had only two issues with payroll since I've started with this company and all of them have been resolved very quickly when I brought it to the attention of payroll. As for the driver managers, its really just luck of the draw. Some are great, others are so bad that there have been factual, documented accounts of drivers coming to the offices and threatening violence. In the end, I'd say this company is definately better than swift and most all of the other starter companies, but if you're an experienced driver with clean CSA and good work history, you can find a higher paying company where you'll be treated better.

    On a side note, Navajo does put you in your own hotel for orientation and layovers and breakdowns. The hotel in Denver is nice, but if you're going to Arizona do not go walking around the hotel after dark. Almost got robbed my first night there! Oh and monitor your DAC from time to time, this company has been known to report any and all negatives in order to keep you from going elsewhere. Lastly, prepare to go through all scales, bring your own truck navigation and pay for every out of pocket expense yourself prior to being reimbursed. Any additional questions? Pm me.
     
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  8. Screwdriversg

    Screwdriversg Light Load Member

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    Well tks.. I'm a very experience driver not a student or been out of it.. Am driver now and have been for a long time.. You say not all trucks have apu units..?? Thought that all did. What is the truck gov. At ?? But thanks for other info. I usually stay out for 6 weeks at a time so I'm good on home time..
     
  9. killaforniaxcowboy

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    Six weeks at a time? Oh, theyll love you. In fact, if you never went home that'd be a-okay with them too. The truck I have has no apu. It also has automatic idle shut off after five minutes. And there is no over ride unless the outside temp is above 90 or below 29. Id probably be so fired for saying this but that only way I can not freeze my butt off or die of heat exhaustion where its one or two degrees above threshold is to thread my wooden cane around the steering wheel and place light pressure on the accelerator all night. The trucks with apus are reserved for trainers and veteran drivers. Just met a driver the other day been with Navajo three weeks but had lots of experience prior. He had a 12' t660 400k no apu auto shut down. Trucks are governed at 62 or 65 on cruise. Used to be 68. When you go in for a B service in Denver they will turn you down to 62 period. If you need service go to the Arizona terminal that's what I do. They don't play that gamme. Pay is low as stated, but high when compared with Swift or Werner. Best bet is to become a trainer or dedicated team. They get treated like gold and make bank. Know a trainer here on dedicated who takes home 1800 a week and sleeps at home once or twice in that week. Teams and dedicated also get newest trailers solos are not allowed to take new trailers.
     
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  10. killaforniaxcowboy

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    I forgot to mention that its also hush hush when it comes to the relationship that the owner of Swift has with the owner of this company. the story goes that Don digby fell off his motorcycle, and that the owner of Swift, can't remember his name, supposedly save Mr Digby's life. Well from what I've heard from veteran drivers that story isn't true. the truth is that Swift is slowly starting to acquire Navajo and that is why Navajo is starting to switch to adapt more of Swift policies, including forcing you to fuel at certain places only and slowly turning down all of the trucks, first from 68 to 65, and now from 65 to 62. Also you will sometimes see a Navajo driver pulling a swift trailer. and surprise surprise as of a couple years ago we've mysteriously been able to use some swift terminals as well. A lot of our junk ends up in their yards too.
     
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  11. Screwdriversg

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    Thanks for the information.. Every little bit helps a driver out.. Well it will give me something to think about for sure.. Am currently working but you know how that is seems like you go somewhere and have to find out first hand on how they are because the recruiting department will lie like hell.. But thanks for the information.. Maybe will go maybe not. .. But if I go I have your name here and I will try to keep up.. Tks
     
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