When stuck waiting at a dock...

but but, now we have elogs to make sure we follow their insanity,



right into the poor house

 

Yep been doing it for 20 years and never had a problem only time i logged everything on duty was when i wanted to run out of hours.gotta learn how to play the game.

 

Yep, carry a similar letter in my permit book, have for years. Only time I log Line 4 while at a customer is if I am on the dock, sitting in the drivers seat because I have to move the truck as part of the process, or the process will take less than 30 minutes and it's not worth the hassle of drawing extra lines.

 

Generally I don't spend a lot of time spotted on a door waiting for live load/unload and it just doesn't make enough of a difference either way to affect the outcome or my paycheck for the week, given the nature of my current job, so I just leave it on line 4 in case anybody ever got an itch to scrutinize my logbook practices, which nobody has in a long time but it has happened and I have been questioned on this very practice when a DOT officer in AZ noticed I'd logged some time on line 1 when I'd flagged "Load" at a certain location. I told him they'ed excused me from the premises for a given time because the warehouse crew had gone to lunch and that was that.

 

I'm not a driver just a semi-retired guy thinking about giving it a shot. I thought I had a handle on the regulations but this part is a little unclear. Tell me if I'm understanding this correctly please:

1) Once you go on duty a clock starts and keeps running until you go off duty for 10 hours.
2) Within the first 14 hours you can drive a CMV up to 11 hours.
3) Only driving time or on duty not driving time counts against your 70 hours. Not the whole time between when you started your day in 14 hour window and you stopped.

Is that correct?

 

Sounds right to me.

On a different note, I drive 5 days a week, so it doesn't make a difference whether I go off duty or not when being live unloaded. I will never get close to being over my 70 in those 5 days.

 

Is this a joke? If not.......your friend needs help with logging before he goes bankrupt. He can go broke cheaper sitting at home.

 

The solution I have found if you want to be legal AND not waste your hours is to simply lay down in the sleeping berth if the customer will let you stay in the truck and log it as line 2. The FMCSRs say nothing about being relieved of all duty when using the SB just that you are in it getting rest. Course, that doesn't help at those asinine places that require you to stay in the driver's lounge. But I've never had an issue with DOT questioning me about being off-duty during an unload like that.

 

If it would just stop the 14 hour clock!

I always try to arrive at the shipper or receiver the night before when possible or at least close by.

Then if I set in a door from say 7 to 10 am...My logbook shows still in the sleeper until about 30 minutes before i depart!
Save that 11 hours!

 

Ya, this is honestly the best way. At least at conserving your hours. And if the shipper/receiver allow it. And it's safe. Heh If only life was simple though.