So I am looking at getting a 2nd truck and hiring someone on with my current company I am leased to. I am looking at 2010-12 prostar with MF. I am aware of the problems with MF engines but are they really that bad?
Most of all the posts I have read seem to be basic stuff that goes wrong with trucks:
Low power - not much of a concern with me bc we haul light freight
egr problems - what truck doesn't
Turbo problems - what truck doesn't
Besides the above mentioned any other problems?
The prostars I am looking at have all software upgrades.
I currently have a 2013 cascadia with cummins and before we hit 500k miles we had a starter, radiator, main baring, and liners replaced along with plenty of aftertreat and dpf problems...so does it really matter what truck and engine anymore?
The prostars are so cheap right now they are hard to pass up.
any opinions?
International Prostar with Maxxforce 13
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Why do you think the price is so low on the prostar...?
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If you like down time and repair bills buy the Maxxforce engine. Do a search on here for Maxxforce lots of info already posted.
Do a search on CraigsList you may find a local company or owner op selling trucks outright for lower price.bzinger Thanks this. -
If you're trying to get a better understanding of what "buyer's remorse" is, by all means, get the Maxxforce.
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I have had so much down time with cummins over past year can't see it being much worse. I've calculated over 6 weeks....maybe more in past year. Prostar with MF is consistantly 10k less than Prostar with cummins And usually 100-200k less miles. And a Cascadia with detroit seems way overpriced at 50k.
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What all have you had going on with your Cummins?
One of the big things I notice with DPF-equipped trucks is that, although they're an item to be serviced at regular intervals, a lot of people don't touch them until it stats throwing codes (the company I work for included). Cleaning a DPF isn't difficult... if you have just the DPF without the DEF and SCR, then you'll either have a four piece or three piece system, depending on the model year... the difference being that the DOC is integral to the inlet on the three piece system, whereas the DOC and inlet are separate on the four piece. What is a pain in the nuts on those is that those are held in with four bolts which are prone to seizing, so you'll want to give them a liberal dosing of PB Blaster, Liquid Wrench, WD40, and let it soak for a bit before you go cranking on them, and make good and sure not to break them.
IMO, if you're going to own a truck with an aftertreatment system, then it's worth it to get the software (in the case of Cummins, that would be Insiste), and the diagnostic reader with the SAE J1939 connector (for Cummins, either Inline 5/6 or NexIQ).rachi Thanks this. -
Had 4 maxxforce international 08-10s constant headaches all,of them if you want my advice I say NO WAY STAY AWAY. It may be cheap that buy... But not to keep up with.
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You should listen to these folks and look elsewhere. That truck spends more time on the hook than rolling.
I gave up my new carrier issued 14 for a slower 12 Volvo automatic. Got tired of sitting at Binder drinking coffee while my commissioned brothers rolled by while I starved .
Trucks have problems, lines are long at dealer and there's no parts. Factory blames union and you starve while waiting. Package nearly bankrupted Binder.
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My friend who works for celedon is on his 3rd prostar in the last 2 years. The previous two have blew up around 300,000 miles, both of them.
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Mechanically M.A.N. engines are good, but really early common rail engines for class 8 trucks were not reliable enought.
In early 2000s only three companies introduced CRD engines for trucks:
M.A.N fit this engine to TGA trucks, and later to International, Renault/Mack (before wedding with Volvo) made DCI 11 and Cummins introduced CRD engines from small ISB to ISL9, later they add ISF.
All these engines got different versions of Bocsh CRD. Good ore not? Yep, not so reliable like pump units ore injector pump units, but surelly fuel economy is much better
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