Wheelbase and Governed Trucks

Discussion in 'Canadian Truckers Forum' started by jldilley, Mar 21, 2015.

  1. Prairie Boy

    Prairie Boy Road Train Member

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    75.5 feet. Just run higher speed gears in your truck and leave the ECM set at 105.
     
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  3. jldilley

    jldilley Medium Load Member

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    Agreed. I love running Canada and own equipment that will allow me to run all provinces, but I just don't ever see myself governing my truck. It just seems wierd/shady that they would do that crapola anyway, almost like some mega-carrier lobbied for it to punish owner-ops.
     
  4. pmcfee

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    I think it had more to do with appeasing the Liberal voting base in Ontario, who have a habit of blaming all road woes on trucks in Southern Ontario.
     
  5. magoo68

    magoo68 Road Train Member

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    First day the law came into effect I got dinged 390$ in ontario who allowed me to carry on .. A few years later one of our owner/ops got dinged 500$ in Quebec who required him to get limiter set before leaving scale .. My fix was putting drivers reward in ecm which gave me a top speed of 75mph or so .. Other guys fix was buying a bully dog watchdog which he uses as a fuel economy gauge that allows him to reset limiter in a minute or two .. If you have drivers reward available in ecm you set goals really low 3mpg 50% idle etc that way reward is always active .. I've heard a few guys say Quebec could see it but I was checked 7 or8 times without any issues
     
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  6. Runawayscreaming

    Runawayscreaming Medium Load Member

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    This is slightly off-topic for USA-compliant trailers but last year a national memorandum of understanding was signed between the Council of Ministers Responsible for Transportation and Highway Safety in Canada that increased the "overall length limit for B-train double trailer combinations from 25 m to 27.5 m. The increase in the overall length limit will allow use of tractors with a wheelbase of up to 6.2 m." The purpose of the additional tractor length is to allow for moose bars, DEF tanks, APU's and, most importantly, larger bunks to "improve driver comfort and reduce fatigue".
     
  7. liner

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    Ontario changed there wheelbase laws back in July 2012 from 6.2 m to 7.2 m max.(aprox 284 in). You can run that length right across Canada now although a permit is still required in Nova Scotia.And yes you can pull a 53ft trailer as long as you stay under the overall length limit.My truck is 282 inches and by sliding the 5th wheel ahead a bit I stay under the overall length limit.

    http://ri.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0L...f-canada/RK=0/RS=RkX29bOktclBO0bwClL1nuAuFSI-
     
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  8. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    Thanks for the link. I had heard that ON made a change, but I wasn't sure, as I mentioned.

    There is a bit of information that seems misleading though.

    For longer tractors, MTO is using an already established formula from other jurisdictions that reduces trailer wheelbase as tractor wheelbase increase, which allows the configuration to negotiate turns the same as any other vehicle. All other Canadian provinces allow for a longer wheelbase tractor, save for Nova Scotia which requires a special permit.

    My issue is with the last sentence as it seems to suggest that no permit is required in jurisdictions other than NS. A permit is required in BC (and I believe other jurisdictions, but I'm not 100% certain which ones).

    From the link I previously posted (published April, 2014):

    i) Truck Tractor and Semi-Trailer

    Single trip or term oversize permits may be issued for long wheelbase tractors exceeding 6.2 m (244”) in combination with semi-trailers which do not comply with Appendix “B” in the Commercial Transport Regulations, up to a maximum overall length of 23 m in overall length for a truck-tractor/semi-trailer combination provided the trailer wheelbase is reduced according the following chart.


    http://www.th.gov.bc.ca/cvse/ctpm/chapter_5.pdf
     
  9. Prairie Boy

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    25M to 26M Just a shade over 85 feet from 82.
     
  10. Runawayscreaming

    Runawayscreaming Medium Load Member

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    The limit change is from 82 feet to a luxurious 27.5 meters (90 feet, 3 inches), which means bunks can be 8 feet longer than than the old solitary-confinement cells of days gone by. As far as I know this is the first time in trucking history where legislators have done something to improve the lives of truck drivers. I will be installing an espresso machine, a separate kitchen, a proper desk and my framed photos of fiery wrecks on Highway 63.
     
  11. Long Island OJ

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    I live on the Canadian border in NY and leased on with Landstar. In order to get home, on the most part I find stateside load but sometimes rolling into Ontario and Quebec, not to mention it is shorter to the UP and Northern Michigan through Ontario. My old KW was check on occasion for speed limiters until the day came when my truck was shut down shortly after the OPP plugged into the ECM port. With my foul language and I imagine swelled out veins coming out of my neck after resetting my system the truck failed to start, the OPP decided it would be for the best to call a wrecker, at Ontario's cost. They towed it to Cornwall to a garage, where they installed a new ECM for $2300 Canadian, including labor, which I have not seen the a penny from Ontario for the cost. Since I have refused to allow Ontario or Quebec anywhere near the ECM port and have been check only once, and the response was "eh" after showing the receipt I keep in my truck for replacement of the ECM in September 2013. He also added if I was caught for speeding in Ontario, a speeding ticket would be issued and a ticket for not having a speed limiter. My suggestion: set the cruise on 65 along with engine brake on and enjoy the beautiful country of Canada!
     
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