The randy tablets

Parts of US-93 are Non-Staa. Not that you see STAA class 8 trucks on it all the time. That does not mean it is legal for you to be on it. If you take a route and it does not the route you want, change to car mode. If it takes it in car mode then there is a truck restriction. Then change to 48'/96" and see if it routes you. If it does then you are seeing a Non-STAA route somewhere along the route you wish to go.

This has nothing to do with the GPS unit. This has to do with the way the AZ DOT has listed US-93 for parts being Non-STAA. To say that this is a TND issue would not make sense.

RM has to go by what the states list for their truck restrictions. This is the way it is. RM cannot change Truck restrictions unless the State in question changes.

So for 4 years you have mentioned about the TND that it will not route you correctly when all along it routed you in accordance with State DOT restrictions.

 

you already explained that STAA thing. and it makes perfect sense.

but copilot has no issue taking that NON staa route. or any other route in any other state. And it's ALL state DOT regulated.
if it's truck legal. copilot uses it. it don't seem to care about staa. it only cares about being truck legal.
if there's no signs saying trucks aren't allowed. and there's trucks rolling down that road. i'm taking it, WITHOUT copilot screaming at me.

 

I'm running a 720 along with a tablet and the tablet is significantly faster than the 720. I don't see functions in the 720 that aren't in the tablet, as far as I can tell after having it a while they have identical features. What is missing, details please!

 

The 93 is a given.. just look at a map geez .. Keep it simple

 

In my experience RM is quick to acknowledge issues and works as quickly as possible to resolve them, especially if they go through Mark. I screwed up one of my earlier models, my fault completely, and he repaired it for me no problem.

Complaints of routing issues, as Mark has said, are usually because RM uses the data provided by states on their roadways. I agree with their decision NOT to route you down a road that state DOT says is not a truck route. How quickly would drivers complain if they got a ticket then? Many roads the STAA restrictions are ignored by law enforcement, but in particular 53' trailers are NOT legal on many roads they routinely travel. And that final mile to pickup or deliver often requires taking whatever route necessary to get there, sometimes even over bridges that are weight restricted as that is the only way in. In my personal experience with GPS's in the military, aviation, and trucking, the users often don't understand the inherent limitations
of the devices and underlying technology and blame everything on the units. Look at all the times it's been posted "the GPS made me hit that low bridge" and how NYC even blames the GPS for these crashes, even with flashing lights and signs warning of low clearance. GPS is a tool, not the one and only solution to routing. Too many drivers rely solely on what their GPS guidance suggests and don't engage their brains.

For those who know everything that is wrong and what "should be done better" go ahead and design your own "perfect" product and put the rest of the manufacturers out of business. Get back to us on how easy that is. That's not just for RM but for any product. With anything in the trucking industry, what have you done to fix the problem other than complain?

 

Many states have weight restrictions without posting signs. This does not mean it is legal.

Does Co-Pilot use just the maps or does it use the truck restrictions that have to be bought in addition to the maps?

The program for truck mapping has to care about if it is a STAA or Non-Staa route. IF you are on a Non-STAA route with a 53' you could get a ticket for being Oversized and Overlength.

RM looks at the entire route when it calculates the route, not the first xxx miles and then adds more to the route as you go along your route. It looks at what are in your settings for your truck and it then picks a route based upon those settings. If US-93 has Non-Staa segments and there are no other routes close to get you around it will not route you on US-93.

I know US-93 since it has been brought up a lot the past 3 years. AZ also routes you this way if you are OS/OD. This is the state giving you route. They take the legal part of routing you on a Non-Staa segment.

A good reference is the MCRA of restrictions for each state. The MCRA uses a different DB than the mapset for the TND.

Other trucks driving on a road does not make it a legal route.

If the posted speed is 65mph and everyone is doing 80mph, this does not mean it is legal to drive 80mph.

 

The Tablet is the next step up. It has the Truck Navigation App, but also allows you to use other apps thus freeing the need to take a laptop. it can update via your Hotspot without the need for a computer or the Dock.

 

copilot doesn't have any truck restrictions that have to be bought in the map. it contains the parameters and just needs setting.

it routes me, i drive it. and have never had a problem with the wrong road or the police. including 53 foot trailers.

the times i doooo have a problem, are when i make my own decisions, or i try the alternate route possibility.
if i try the alternate routes, then it shoots for any path available. and most times. the any path isn't legal.

the 550 in new mexico and colorado and 93 in arizona are 2 routes rand doesn't like. or didn't when i had it.
if 53 footers are driving the road. one could assume that a 48 foot flat would have no problems.

now, i could see the 550 in colorado being a bad road. it's not truck friendly at all. but 53 footers drive it. and copilot takes it.

now, i've had a problem with destinations in california cities. but what you gonna do? other then pray that a cop doesn't see you while your driving, loading/unloading, and getting the heck out.

i did do a pickup on a street in las vegas. that has 13 ton signs. copilot took me right on it. but the plant is also right on that road. and the only thing on that road. which means trucks running that road during business hours.

i've had copilot for 4 years and couldn't be happier. i had rand for 2 weeks and that was enough for me. specially when it coulnd't figure out how to get out of that town it took me in to.

 

I'll pass.... Don't want any of my hard earned dollars filtering in to that con mans pocket. In fact I think less of RM for their association with the snake oil salesman.

 

there was a pickup in seattle that me and another truck went too. copilot took me on the freeway right to the exit and the plant at the end of that exit.

the other truck had rand, and it took him through the northern part of the city. through city streets.