True weight savings with super singles

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by istumped, Apr 17, 2015.

  1. cnsper

    cnsper Road Train Member

    5,869
    27,419
    Feb 28, 2014
    0
    Tell that to those in Dallas and Atlanta this year LOL
     
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. Jetsr6

    Jetsr6 Light Load Member

    131
    46
    May 20, 2011
    Mechanicsville, VA
    0
    I ran energy D's singles last two winters in PA. First winter got stuck 0 times. 2nd winter one time. I have 175,000 on them now. Last fall I had 30 day avg 8.1 MPG's. I run a tpms so I know the air pressures and heat. I also drive 55. And I carry all different wights up to 45000.
     
    Sisbro Thanks this.
  4. Starboyjim

    Starboyjim Road Train Member

    2,039
    1,423
    Dec 10, 2011
    Weed, CA
    0
    A flat on a super single axle means you're sitting. With duals, you might limp into a shop and get rolling. The move-in cost is pretty strong, but a flat is bad news, repair or replacement. I have not seen a spare super single on a truck or trailer. One driver told me that fuel economy is a little better with the super single tires. I ran them for Conway, didn't like them. I'm probably hallucinating, but I thought the sidewall flex was more noticable, and I believe they're more prone to hydroplaning. Last. I'm doing fine with duals, so I'm not looking at a reason to change to super singles. I guess the move-in, tires and wheels, is quite an investment.
     
  5. Cowpie1

    Cowpie1 Road Train Member

    5,569
    4,646
    Nov 25, 2008
    Kellogg, IA
    0
    Well, I just completed the third full winter in the upper midwest (only area I run) on the set of wide based drive rubber that came on the truck from the factory in August of 2012. And I either take the trailer home or bobtail, and I have to travel down snowy, gravel rural roads in Iowa to get to the house. I measured the tread at 387,000 miles, and they still had roughly 13/32nds tread left and nice even wear. Probably targeting next fall for replacement wide based rubber.

    True, you get a flat on a wide based and you will be sitting. But you will have the same problem with a steer tire, unless we all start running 4 steer tires up front! And seems like I see way more steer tire problems with other trucks out on the road than I do wide based rubber problems. Only one time I had t repair a wide based, I picked up a 5/8" bolt in one of my wide based about a year and a half ago. As I do every morning and several times a day, I checked all tires all the way around. Noticed the one wide based seemed lower. Pulled out the gauge and check, sure enough it was down about 30 lb. It had been sitting all night and lost the 30 lb. I aired it up on the spot with a gladhand air hose and ran over 100 miles to Waterloo, IA and had the tire repaired. Only stopped to check the tire once enroute and didn't have to add air.

    How they handle is primarily dependent on air pressure in them. I religiously follow Michelin's load pressure charts on how much air I run in mine. None of the problems other seem to have experienced. Now, within reason. I do not change air pressures all the time for every load.
     
    Last edited: Apr 18, 2015
    Jetsr6 and icsheeple Thank this.
  6. LandShark

    LandShark Road Train Member

    1,525
    1,064
    Nov 22, 2008
    Riverdale, Ga
    0
    All I can say is when I scale in at a refinery my empty weight is around 27700 depending on how much fuel I have on give or take a 100 lbs. When the drivers with duels weigh in they are between 32000 and 34000. So I can load 1 or 2 more tons than they are able. Which means MORE PAY for me going to the exact same places they are going.
     
    Cowpie1 Thanks this.
  7. Starboyjim

    Starboyjim Road Train Member

    2,039
    1,423
    Dec 10, 2011
    Weed, CA
    0
    Shark, that is 5-7,000 lbs. Tires don't explain that much difference. Lighter truck = heavier loads, right.
     
    OldHasBeen Thanks this.
  8. Jetsr6

    Jetsr6 Light Load Member

    131
    46
    May 20, 2011
    Mechanicsville, VA
    0
    Cost me $4250 to make the switch and that includes 2 xza3+ for steers.
     
  9. LandShark

    LandShark Road Train Member

    1,525
    1,064
    Nov 22, 2008
    Riverdale, Ga
    0
    All I can tell you is I pull bulk and my truck is specifically designed for maximum load capacity. I assure you that SS are allowing me to load at least 1500 extra lbs. Than same set up trucks with duels
     
  10. istumped

    istumped Medium Load Member

    464
    219
    Feb 8, 2015
    0
    If I could get that extra 1500 lbs I would be in heaven. But I don't think tires are going to do that much
     
    Lalito.1234 Thanks this.
  11. terryt

    terryt Heavy Load Member

    736
    775
    Apr 27, 2009
    0
    I got 830lbs doing both truck and trailer . Had a blowout on my trailer an tanker it cost 1600 for road call new rim and tire. Also 2700 in damage to trailer fender fender supports ICC bumper and outer skin new hose rack and right side tail lights. Takes a long time in fuel saving to make up 4300 dollars plus the three hour wait along side of the road. I haul hot asphalt thank god it didn't tear open the tank.
     
    baha, icsheeple and OldHasBeen Thank this.
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.