help identifying noise

Discussion in 'Freightliner Forum' started by mgrantes, May 13, 2015.

  1. mgrantes

    mgrantes Light Load Member

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    Yeah, I didn't think it was my fuel pump either. It's mounted to my compressor and looked mechanically operated. Thanks Skate and Grape. I'll check those things and I'll be back with an update. :)
     
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  3. mgrantes

    mgrantes Light Load Member

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    Update: detached fan belt and detected no bearing play and it seems to spin freely/smoothly. Unhooked solenoid and the sound stopped! :D ...so what does this mean? I sprayed soapy water along the line and basically all in that area and didn't detect any leaks. Does this point to a faulty solenoid?
     
  4. Tanktrux

    Tanktrux Bobtail Member

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    Sounds like the fan clutch to me, if that's the original clutch with that many miles on it. Park some place quiet and run your hand around the back of the clutch and listen for the sound to change, also check the line between the solenoid and clutch really good. Be sure and check the nipple where the air line connects to the clutch, it could be cracked where it screws into the housing.
     
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  5. brsims

    brsims Road Train Member

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    Here's my help:

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    That any help?
     
  6. Skate-Board

    Skate-Board Road Train Member

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    I'm surprised you can't feel or see bubbles from where the air sound is coming from. My solenoid has like a little can with slots cut in it. That's where the air comes out.

    I don't know what your real problem is but if it was me I would replace the solenoid. I can't imagine they would be that expensive.

    Having this break under load could be a huge problem not having the fan kick on. On my truck the clutch fan needs air to turn on. Most other trucks turn on when no air. I wish mine was that way.
     
  7. GrapeApe

    GrapeApe Road Train Member

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    It does not sound like the solenoid to me unless the noise is from the solenoid. If you're hearing the noise by the fan, it's either the hose/fitting leaking at the fan hub or the fan hub itself leaking. If you are sure that the hose and fittings are not leaking, it's time for a fun hub rebuild or replacement.

    If you're mechanically inclined enough to to do it, Kitmasters kits are cheaper and IMO better than a reman Horton (if yours is a Horton). If you have a Kysor, they're easy to swap out the fan clutch for a reman unit, but they don't come with pulley bearings (they just bolt on the front of the pulley). I always recommend playing it safe and replacing the pulley bearings while it's apart.
     
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  8. mgrantes

    mgrantes Light Load Member

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    It's not the solenoid Skate. It's definitely air escaping from the fan hub/clutch even though I can't 'feel' it. Grape, it's a Horton. Much to my dismay I'll have to buy the whole assembly. I am mechanically inclined so long as a press isn't involved lol. (I'm still building my tool arsenal). I would Love to try and rebuild it, but I don't want to depend on a 1st time rebuilt unit of my own making since the consequences could be major. Plus, from what I've read rebuilds don't seem to last as long. I think one guy here talked about replacing his clutch 3x's until the bearings failed and took his radiator out. The dealer is going to sell me one for about $600 which I'll install myself. I'm just hoping that the fan shroud won't be a pain to take off. I'll probably have to drain some coolant and remove the upper radiator hose to gain clearance as well. Idk, just guessing from a glance. Interestingly enough, on my way home today my CE light came on for SID 147/07 which points to my egr valve....perhaps that's why I've been enjoying great fuel mileage for the last two weeks lol
     
  9. icsheeple

    icsheeple Trailing the Herd

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    When I did my fan clutch I didn't do the bearings. Shop said they looked good. What's an early warning indicator the hub bearings are starting to go?
     
  10. arizonasteel

    arizonasteel Bobtail Member

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    anyone able to help with my loud rattle coming from front of engine around 14 to 1500 rpm. its an isx motor
     
  11. GrapeApe

    GrapeApe Road Train Member

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    Sometimes there isn't much warning. An air leak in the hub could be from bearings running hot and melting the seals. A whining noise coming from the hub means shut it down before the fan hits the radiator. To check them, we first leave belt on (engine off), power the solenoid to release the hub and spin the fan, listen for leaks and bearing noise. This only checks the free wheel bearings. Then we unpower the solenoid to lock the clutch and take the belt loose to spin the whole pulley to check those bearings.
     
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