Flashers or no Flashers?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by jerezxp7, May 14, 2015.

  1. KW Cajun

    KW Cajun Road Train Member

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    Yes, for sure... but in addition to the 4-way flashers being on. Just as I addressed in post #58.
    My earlier point was ppl need to be paying more attention, and less assuming, whenever encountering a vehicle with flashers on.
    Even in triangle scenarios... there will be a few minutes with only flashers to warn, before the triangles can be placed.

    Note that the OP's topic was only about use of flashers... tho use of triangles was added to address his particular 'stopped vehicle' scenario he encountered.
     
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  3. Toomanybikes

    Toomanybikes Road Train Member

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    I hate all the idiots with fashers on in terminals and warehouses. So many flashers on you cannot see who is doing what; Nauseating! Some leave them on while the truck is in the dock.

    Going slow on the road I obey the law and put them on 10-15 under the posted limit. Although I don't, I see many do put them on in California and I have never seen or heard of anyone sighted for it. I may do the same after reading the code now.
     
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  4. jerezxp7

    jerezxp7 Medium Load Member

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    He needed to get the hell off the road this was at night in Oregon cars were few and far between and trucks were fewer your on a straight stretch of i5 sitting half way up a hill parked in a traffic lane, at what point does your brain stop working and you rule out rolling back to get off the road when you dont see any headlights off in the 3 mile distance. This fool was sitting there making a phone call in a traffic lane at night with his 4 ways on he is the same kind of fool that drives with them on up every hill so basically in this drivers mind no matter what he is doing so long as his flashers are on he is being safe. Which brings me back to my point we are the professional drivers and in any given day face a million different scenarios I can tell by most these threads drivers all have their own opinions when they use theirs and when they don't so when i see a truck with them on I need to expect anything he could be going slow he could be on fire he could be stopped. Traffic up ahead could be slowing down. I really wont know until I get there and see for myself because they mean nothing other then drivers want to make sure people can see their 72 ft long 13 ft tall truck as if its easy to miss unless you have lights flashing on the back.
     
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  5. jerezxp7

    jerezxp7 Medium Load Member

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    If my truck stopped where this truck stopped I would have to have a broken axle and my engine fell out before i decided to just park it right here and make some calls. There is no way in hell Im getting out there and putting out cones and triangles with cars and trucks flying by me and my truck stopped in the lane 100 ft ahead no you get your #### off the road before you get someone killed i dont care how your a professional driver figure it out.
     
  6. FatDaddy

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    Yep. They mean you better pay attention something is happening and I'm making you aware of it since I don't have a neon flashing sign telling you exactly what my problem is. Your attitude about this suggests you seem to be a know it all without the experience to back it up. I only say this because comments like "as if it's easy to miss your 72ft long 13 ft high truck" reeks of inexperience.
     
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  7. KW Cajun

    KW Cajun Road Train Member

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    jerez,,
    You started the thread with the primary topic being "Flashers or No Flashers" (when moving slow uphill).
    It has now evolved to "What should this particular truck have done, being stopped/broken down in a lane of traffic on a hill".

    It's not rocket science to know the 'right' thing to do, and like you even admit, there are "a million different scenarios".
    But choosing the 'right' actions requires knowing every single detail, and details may change things.
    Now with your last 2 posts, it adds more details to the scenario, which may change the 'what should that driver do?' answer.

    But it's confusing when you contradict things, saying "There is no way in hell Im getting out there and putting out cones and triangles with cars and trucks flying by me", but in your prior post you said "this was at night in Oregon cars were few and far between and trucks were fewer your on a straight stretch of i5 sitting half way up a hill parked in a traffic lane".

    The real question is WHY is he stopped in a traffic lane? It's obvious that you, and none of us, knows why.
    Perhaps he is an idiot, and didn't have sense enough to move to the shoulder at the first sign of problems.
    Then again,, perhaps something of a catastrophic nature dumped all of his air pressure, or a mechanical failure caused all his wheels to lock up, rendering the truck immobile.

    But yes,, IF the truck was able to be moved, or rolled, and there was a break in traffic, he should have first tried to get that rig off to the shoulder. But flashers need to be ON and triangles need to be PLACED, asap, regardless.
     
  8. GasHauler

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    Some states require the use when going slow and/or climbing a grade and some do not. I do it when safety is involved along with common sense. I'm loaded up with 12,450 gallons of gasoline creeping up a grade, you can bet I'll have the flashers on. Even if there's a sign at the bottom of the grade warning drivers of slow trucks. I sure wouldn't depend on a sign for my safety. If a LEO wants to give me a ticket, fine I'll take that ticket and explain to a judge. That would place me in a situation that would force me to spread the word that the courts and the state laws do not consider the safety of drivers.
     
  9. Big Don

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    HAZARD warning lights - 4 way flashers, call them what you will, it makes no difference. They are on to warn motorists that something, again I stress something is not quite "normal." Be it a slow moving truck climbing a hill, someone observing traffic slowing rapidly ahead, stalled/stopped vehicle. Or perhaps vehicle backing up. If you see these HAZARD lights, it is a pretty good idea to think, "hm, something isn't quite "normal" here, perhaps I should let up on the accelerator, and maybe, just maybe throw on some brakes, or at least be prepared to do so."

    IT AIN'T ROCKET SURGERY OR BRAIN SCIENCE. . .:rolleyes:
     
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  10. Chewy352

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    I don't see any reason for stopping in the road. Once I hit approx. 10 to 15 MPH and still had more grade to go I would hit the shoulder and try to keep chugging along. That way if I do come to a stop I'm out of traffic lanes.
     
  11. ‘Olhand

    ‘Olhand Cantankerous Crusty

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    Im w/Gashauler on this one--I spent alot of years runnin Cali--and have heard/read all the rules about 4ways--didn't then and still wouldn't care--Im pullin a grade at less than 50--mine are on--and Ill happily explain it to any judge--snd no matter the reply answer honestly in open court--the rulin is BS--and I'll continue to do so.....
     
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