County votes to ban marijuana cultivation

I think that many people hear what the gubmint tells them about the evils of the devil weed, and how important to mankind it is to to strictly enforce laws to prevent folks from using it, be it for medical reasons or recreational use, and they're satisfied with what they're being told.

And if the majority of voters in a state want to de-criminalize marijuana, the federal gubmint prevents the will of that majority.

For that reason, I wonder if those folks who choose to believe all that gubmint 'reasoning' --- actually think folks AREN'T smokin' it?

Because ----------- guess what?
They are.
And I doubt the numbers of those who are would rise all that much if marijuana were to be legalized. Even if it did, so what?
Marijuana isn't killing people ---- like alcohol, a LEGAL substance, does and IS (killin' people).

Yet folks get up in arms over a substance that's worst harm is gettin' CAUGHT smokin' it ---- and BUSTED by the law.

I don't know 'bout y'all ---- but isn't that kinda like Janet Reno tryin' to SAVE the children in Waco, Texas a few years back?

The children wound up burned to death after Janet sent the tanks and troops in to "save" them.

Maybe to illustrate to a child that a stove can be hot, we oughta chop their hand off?

I like to research things with an open mind. One of the things I researched many years ago was marijuana, because I wanted to know the facts as they pertained to the truth -- and compare that to what I had been hearing from our gubmint for years.

To sum it up -----
Follow the Money Trail.
And it goes farther back than the founding of this country when hemp was a hot commodity.
It'll also take you to WWII, and the American Farmers who were INSTRUCTED by our gubmint to grow it.
YuP!

Then pulled the carpet out from under them, right after Popular Mechanics Magazine (I think it was) ran a cover story calling hemp the next Million Dollar Crop.
Go figure.

Look up how many things hemp is used for.
It could even produce fuel.
YuP.

But our gubmint says it's illegal to grow.
Says the kids might start smokin' it.
Although research has PROVEN it contains much too little THC to even produce a mild "high" --- and would probably make 'em sick to their stomachs instead.
Not deadly sick --- just green, and not likely to be attempted again.

Look up how many deaths were a direct cause of marijuana use.
Compare that to alcohol related deaths.
Yet alcohol IS legal.
Does that make sense?

Medical research was commissioned by our gubmint to find ALL the "bad" things about THC, the stuff in marijuana that produces the "high", to justify why it's illegal.

The research team set out to do just that, but,....
along the way, they were finding GOOD things about THC, and reported their findings to the gubmint.
Big mistake.
The gubmint jerked the funding, and closed the eyes and minds of the researchers -- some of whom have gone ON in spite of our gubmint finding, which was ----------

Marijuana Has NO Redeeming Medicinal Value.
YuP.
With, at best, an INCOMPLETE study, cut short by the same gubmint who claimed to be seeking the "truth".
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Yet the pharmaceutical industry spends millions and millions of dollars trying to synthetically reproduce what grows naturally in nature and in abundant supply.
Or at least it COULD --- IF it were legalized.
Can we say "profit$" instead of Prophets?

 

I would rather that people would not smoke weed or abuse booze or take any of the other dangerous drugs out there that are such a plague on our society.I believe that our governments have failed big time with their war on drugs. It's very clear that they are not winning that war. If they would spend as much time and effort as they have over the last many years on the war against smoking I really think that we would see a lot of success. It's a matter of education and conditioning of the young to reject the use of drugs. Make it socially unacceptable and something that is looked down on by the kids. When kids want to use drugs abiut as much as they want to catch HIV then we will win the war.

 

Wow such a touchy subject and so many valid points and opinions.

I always say to each his own.

What's right for one person might be wrong for another. That's just the nature of everything in general. Heck if we all agreed what would we have to talk about.

Personally speaking I'd much rather smoke something I bought from a club that is taylored to my specific pain/disease than continue taking massive amounts of synthetic pain killers that damage my liver and kidneys and leave me feeling hung over the next day.

Sure in the past I've smoked from time to time for the fun of it. It sure beat a hangover in the morning and I didn't puke. What wasn't to like, except the head high.

A few years back on one COLD night, I found myself out of pain meds and dyin. Ya know the kind of pain that makes you wish you'd just die and get it over with. The.......


'Johnny get my gun'..........

&

'Martha sell my clothes cause I'm goin to heaven'...............kinda pain.

So I called my daughter who I knew had some of this stuff she called 'Club Weed.'

Heck I didn't know what club weed was. I was thinkin since when do you need to get weeds from a club?

Weed is Weed right ? ?

WRONG..................

She brought me some of this stuff down that she had been using to bake brownies and cookies for her mother-in-law who had cancer. At first I was reluctant:

Is my house gonna smell?

Will the cops find out?

What would everyone think?

Does this make me a 'Pot Head' ?

Who cares I was in some nasty wicked pain.

~'Ready'...........'set'.................F I R E !!!!

2 tokes later my head was still clear but my neck tingled and my hips and legs were pain free...............yea baby mama wants to dance again!!!!!

Relief at last...........

I was so excited I walked around the block at 2 am.

I'm not sayin it's a cure all but for me personally I find it a better method of pain relief when needed......key words here WHEN NEEDED.

I don't advocate using this while driving or operating any type of machinery be it truck or lathe. As much as the 'Science of Growing' has progressed 1000 fold since back in the day there can be side effects.

There is always a variance in the seed or plant unless you're dealing with clones. Variance in climate conditions, water vs. soil, and alttitude to what the plant is fed all play into the outcome. This is why I think it should be made legal. That way it's restricted to certain growers who can control this with each single batch therefore yeilding a better crop that is more true to the properties and it's use for that particular strain.

I doubt this will ever happen because the pharm compaines have far to much to loose.

Can you imagine your doctor sayin 'take 2 tokes and call me in the morning' ? ? ?

No....it's more profitable all around to give out Vicodin or Oxy in massive amounts.

Ok ramblin over.............

 

Highlighting the word "abuse", I agree.

I think you're going on the assumption that our gubmint really WANTS to "win" the war on drugs.
I think the gubmint "wins" when, by their definition, they "lose".
Follow the Money Trail.
No drug "problem"
no cushy gubmint job --- paid for by the taxpayers.

Oh, and let's be sure to keep those southern, back door borders open.

Define "success".
Again, follow the Money Trail.
With the higher taxes on tobacco, do you REALLY think our gubmint WANTS us to stop smoking?

YuP!
I agree.
As long as that "education" is the TRUTH.
Scare tactics haven't worked.
Have any of y'all ever watched the movie, Refer Madness?

And, IMO, "education" should start, and continue, at home. And that "education" should be factual truths.

Based on what?
Myths and untruths?

IMO that's gonna take more than a war on drugs.
Has it not been said that many of those who abuse substances do so in an attempt to "escape"?
Maybe if we eliminated that from which they're tryin' to "escape" --- there'd be NO reason for a "war".
Ya reckon.

I think, in extreme cases, the "problem" is not the marijuana use, but rather there already exists another underlying "problem". And I agree that substance abuse for those people could and does, sometimes, exacerbate the "problem(s)".
That ain't good.
But the chances of some folks EVER being productive citizens is slim.
Simple recreational use and/or medical use of marijuana is not "abuse".

Countries where marijuana IS legal, don't seem to experience the "problems" this Country is tryin' to convince us it will.

If y'all think it's better for some foreign marijuana growers to continue importing supply, and billions of dollars goin' OUT of this Country, which certainly harms OUR economy in MANY ways --- keep marijuana illegal. I'm sure the drug-lords are thankin' you, as they laugh all the way to the bank.

War" What "war"?

 

There is very little Varience in the quality of the weed that is one of B.C.'s largest exports. That stuff is so powerful that you can get a buzz just looking at it. Most of it goes to the USA and the billions of dollars that come back go into the pockets of organized crime.

 

Ok I actually said this in nursing school, so all methadone pretty much does is trade a leagal drug for an illegal drug, she said yes exactly. But the chances of kicking heroin are very slim it is really sad. I watch programs on tv when ever I catch them, also on the others to. I just watched meth in America, about 3 months ago,that is also a bad situation. I should also mention that I by no means mean to offend anyone out there, with my posts on this topic

 

No your fine
You will find most people are pretty cool here

 

If ANYone is offended by your posts, it's only because they WANT to be offended.

Your thoughts, ideas and opinions are very much appreciated by this poster, and I think others will agree.

We're discussing a touchy subject here, and one that could easily escalate into a food-fight, free-for-all --- but it hasn't.
I think that's cool when folks can rationally discuss touchy subjects without coming all un-glued.

A difference of opinion(s) shouldn't end a friendship, IMO.
And could actually strengthen one.
Ya reckon.

 

Easy for YOU to say, Mr. CoolBaack.

 

Kicking Heroin is nasty but I do know a man who managed to do it and stay clean. Unfortuneatly his drug use many years ago is part of the reason he now has cancer in his left Kidney.

As for offending anyone. I think we're all adults here and can respect everyone's individual thoughts and opinions. I'd much prefer to hear an honest opinion that have you or anyone else might have than a half-truth as I call it. Besides differing opinions is also how we become informed and learn........carry on please.