Debating OTR vs Local Garbage

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  1. Grumppy

    Grumppy Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I worked for Waste Management for 11 years. Other than "management" its not a bad job now days. Its not as "labor intensive" as it used to be in years prior.
    You specifically asked about residential solo & Roll-off.
    Generally speaking, the solo residential trucks are now primarily what we called "one arm bandits". They are usually run in the city because with all the electronics associated with them, they don't work well in rural area's. They tend to get dirty, muddy, dusty etc & don't work well. So, they are normally used in a city environment. In those situations, 99% of the time, you never get out of the truck. You sit in the drivers seat (on the right side) & work a joy stick. Once the truck is full, you go to the land fill & work the rear door & tilt the bed ... again, from the drivers seat hydraulically. Again, 99% of the time with a "one arm bandit", there is little reason for you to deal with or handle the garbage itself.
    On the other hand if its a two or three man truck, sure, the "hoppers" on the rear of the truck will handle each stop/garbage can by hand & will get stuff spattered/splashed & spilled on them. But again, your question was asked specifically about "solo" operated trucks. The driver, seldom, if ever gets out of the truck... more so if its just a two man truck.... less if its a three man truck. So, the driver, may not come into contact with garbage at any time... especially with a "one arm bandit".
    I'll add that most small & medium sized companies do not buy "one arm bandits". Normally, only large companies like Waste Management will buy these.
    Some residential (& frontload) trucks have electric or hydraulic latches on the rear door which dumps the garbage, so the driver doesn't have to get out to manually unlatch the door or dump the truck.
    Just to be clear, occasionally, there are solo manual, old style residential route trucks. So, one man drives 100 feet, gets out, dumps cans, gets in, drives 100 feet, gets out, dumps cans, drives 100 feet...... all day long.
    Residential is deemed the bottom of the barrel at trash companies. Normally, if you do not have any experience in working a garbage truck/route, you will start here. The most turn over is usually in the residential side. Inexperienced drivers bump things, have accidents, long hours, trucks break down, etc, etc.. its just a PITA.
    Another thing, companies like WM usually work on contracts stating they will pick up the route on its assigned day or they have to pay the city/county/customer "X" amount of $ per can not picked up. So, if a truck breaks down, you still gotta stay out there until its done... regardless. As well, if someone else on another route breaks down or has a heavy day
    (the week after Christmas) when you get through with your route, you may have to go help another driver on another route... again, until its done. Then, maybe help a 3rd driver/route... until its done.
    Residential... start, stop, start, stop, start, stop, start, stop, start, stop, start, stop, start, stop, start, stop, start, stop, start, stop, start, stop, start, stop, start, stop, start, stop, start, stop, start, stop... all day long, all week long, all month long, all year long...

    Roll-off: Roll-off deals mainly with construction but does deal with grocery stores which is the worst. Food (self contained) compactors are nasty. Otherwise generally speaking, most of what you deal with here is dry, like construction materials. Of course, for example, you will occasionally have a paper mill (or specialty products) like we have here & you will deal with stinky, wet, water soaked cardboard or paper & it stinks & will slosh on you. No way around some products, trash & waste sometimes.
    Working roll-off is considered one of the top positions a garbage man can have cause usually, as mentioned above, generally have some travel & only go into the landfill 2 - 6 times a day. Its the least work involved in any of the three main positions. You load a can, drive "X" miles drop, pick up, drive "X" miles. Although some still have to "manually" tarp cans, most now have "auto tarp" systems... when they work. Take care of them & you dont have too much work. Find yourself hand tarping & you'll see just how hard it is on a hot day.
    Unlike residential & frontloaders, you have to actually get out of the truck at the landfill to dump & wade the dust, dirt or mud, depending.

    Front load is also considered a top position as well, but its a lot more to it as far as work & constantly getting into tight places, stop after stop all day long. Plus, you start at 2:00 in the morning so you can get into places before the business opens. Other places where you can get into without a problem, you deal with after the business opens. LOTS of backing into & out of tight places consistently... backing into & out of ally ways into the busy streets. Its highly accident prone. Its probably the most highly respected job because it takes a good, forward thinking person to do this. If your mind wanders & you cant keep your mind on what your doing, you wont do this long.

    Hope this helps.....
     
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  3. Amw86

    Amw86 Bobtail Member

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    Thanks, exactly what I was looking for.

    for whatever reason, opposite to your experience, all the smaller companies out here have "one arm bandit" rigs, only place I've seen any 2 man garbage trucks in a long long time is some of the bigger cities haha.

    You know, I just realized the garbage trucks are right hand drive, are they auto's then I guess? otherwise you'd have left hand shift and joystick for controls? Guess thats only way it makes sense.
     
  4. hunted

    hunted Medium Load Member

    I wouldnt be ashamed to haul trash..... Hate to say it but, you will make more money doing that than OTR be home everyday weekends off start early in the morning get done early. In my area they make 26.50 to start with full benefits those jobs are actually very hard to get.
     
  5. Xcis

    Xcis Medium Load Member

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    If you go local for more than 6 months, you will probably need to do a refresher course if you decide to do OTR. If you go local for more than 12 months, you will most likely need to do a complete 160 hour CDL course to qualify for an OTR position.
    . Just something else for you to consider.
     
  6. hunted

    hunted Medium Load Member

    Why would you need to do a refresher course if your driving tractor trailer local? If you have a local job then you would never ever want to run OTR again anyway! We hire OTR guys all the time that said why haven't I done this sooner. And besides the point they aren't going to make a veteran driver who wants to switch jobs who is currently employed and has been take a refresher course.
     
  7. hunted

    hunted Medium Load Member

    Local in my area means you travel through a few states still. MA,VT,NH,ME,RI,CT,NY,PA,NJ,DE, MD. so its almost still a regional but you get to go home at night and live like a human being
     
  8. lfod14

    lfod14 Road Train Member

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    I did rolloffs for a while, not a bad deal depending on who you work for and what it's really hauling. I personally wouldn't do residential, always moving forward 3ft at a time and grabbing barrels to dump would drive me insane real fast. But rolloffs aren't a bad deal, I very rarely smelled like trash, but it depends on what your really picking up. Most rolloffs are used for large debris like contruction etc. But rolloff trucks also pick up compactors and those are usually from food enviroments and can be bad at times. If your options are narrowed down to OTR or just trash, I'd go trash myself. I'm also a huge fan of the early hours that trash usually has. I just got onto an LTL and have a pretty good deal and bene's but the late starts are killing me.
     
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  9. I blew a fuse

    I blew a fuse Light Load Member

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    When I work for a garage as a tech. We called them maggot wagons. Normally everything under the compactor and cab was full of maggots. Sand they would fall on you while working on the truck. It's been years now since working on them. And I can still smell. The odor of garbage. Nastiest truck I ever worked on.
     
  10. I blew a fuse

    I blew a fuse Light Load Member

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    Some really good advice to anyone. Wanting to drive a trash truck. Fully body plastic paint suit. Wear it under the uniform. Go out and buy a junk car to drive to and from work. That smell Will get into the interior of the car. And when you leave the job. You will have to send the car to the junkyard. It'll stink so bad. That no one will buy it.
     
  11. hunted

    hunted Medium Load Member

    Lol! have you seen the classic movie Men at Work Now thats what the job is all about!
     
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