I have a log book question plz

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by runningonempty, Jun 9, 2008.

  1. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    L.O.L. DDL is a great program! My real name isn't LogsRUs, just my title here :).

    For once I am baffled! This 88 degree weather with no AC is killing my brain:biggrin_25521:
     
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  3. Lurchgs

    Lurchgs Road Train Member

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    what? log auditing takes brains?

    oh, I am SO in trouble!


    runningonempty - you are NOT 'just the wife'. I'd not say that about MY wife (survival instinct kicks in, dontchaknow) - and she doesn't take an active role in my driving. You do. Sure, hubby could probably do it himself - but you doing it for him, and just plain being there, is probably a WHOLE lot of weight off his shoulders.

    I agree with the others, DDL is a must. I think there's a lite version for about $50, if you don't need the tools available in the full version. Either will provide the recap and a computer log for you.

    I'm not an experienced driver such as Danc694u (or most of the others on here), nor am I in the auditing department. However, I DO think I'm pretty good with logs - and I messed one up just last week. If I'd had DDL, that would NOT have happened. (I really hate having to update my logs either just before bedtime, or just after I get up. Mind.. not.. functioning... can't add 2 +4... melting melting.. meltingggggggg)
     
  4. CMoore2004

    CMoore2004 Road Train Member

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    He can roll those hours over, simply put... I know some drivers think that after you've been out for the 8 days, you can only get back the hours you dropped 8 days ago, even if you didn't use all of the hours for the previous day.
    For example,
    Day 1, 8 hours
    Day 2, 11 hours
    Day 3, 4 hours
    Day 4, 9 hours
    Day 5, 12 hours
    Day 6, 10 hours
    Day 7, 10 hours
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    Total = 64 hours

    This leaves you with 6 hours for day 8. If on Day 8, you use 4 hours, then on day 9 you have the 2 you didn't use on Day 8, plus the 8 hours you get back from day 1.

    I also talk to a LOT of drivers that think you can't be on duty past that 14 hour mark, or even the 70.
     
  5. Lurchgs

    Lurchgs Road Train Member

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    I've found one of the simplest ways to put it is the way the May Denver terminal manager did to me, when he was explaining it to my orientation class (and everybody else in the office)

    "The law only restricts what you can do on line 3."

    Ergo, you can be on line 4 forever, and be perfectly legal. In fact, I put in a 14.25 hour day two weeks ago - yet I was perfectly legal because I didn't drive past my 11, nor did I drive past the 14 hour mark. It did shorten my drive time for the next day.. but I only drove 7 or so hours anyway.
     
  6. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    Yeap! He is correct :). But do remember if you go over on the 70 hour (only can be on line 4 passed your 70th hour, you can't drive) them hours you are over you will have to pay back after midnight. So if you was on line 4 for 1 hour passed your 70th hour, you would only have 9 hours instead of 10 in your example above.

    Logs:biggrin_25518:
     
  7. Snowman&Fred

    Snowman&Fred Light Load Member

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    Okay, i am totally lost. I was looking on the FMCSA website, and it says you cant drive more than 11 hours after 10 off...then the box right below says you cant drive after 14 hours after coming on duty. I think i need these rules clairified. sounds like the same rule...one is saying you can drive 3 hours more than the other? I can understand the 60/70 7/8 rule, much like how many hours flight attendants can be in the air per week. (no i never was a f/a).
     
  8. notarps4me

    notarps4me Road Train Member

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    11 14 & 70 are the magic numbers. You can drive 11 hours a day, but not after being on duty for 14 hours. So if you started at 7 am was on duty 4 hours not driving then you only have 10 hours to drive. Does that clear it up?
     
  9. Snowman&Fred

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    I think i've got it. You can drive a max of 14 hours, but if you are on duty not driving, that cuts into the 14, with a max of 11. .... i think.

    I just dont want to look like an idiot in drivers school. I dont want to be one of these guys you experienced drivers hate seeing on the road, going 50mph in a 65 or 70 zone. I know anybody who follows me for any length of time might be able to tell i am a newbie, but I just want to be sure I can get thru class without much of a headache. ya know?? i want to do things SAFE, LEGAL and RIGHT...in that order. :biggrin_255:
     
  10. notarps4me

    notarps4me Road Train Member

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    No you can only drive 11 hours a day, but not after being on duty past 14 hours. School is a place to learn. That is why you go there. Don't worry what other people think, newbies or veteran drivers. You are in control of your truck. You control it. Don't let it or others control you.
     
  11. Snowman&Fred

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    think i got it. Thank you for the help. I am sure instructors will go over it in school.....wont they? :biggrin_2553:
     
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