log book question

personally I say do what the company wants you to do. I wold never log a months worth of on duty not driving for 1 day of driving.
well you are require to have logs for 7 days plus the day you are on so you'd have to do them for 7 days for 1 day driving not the 30 days.

 

Sugarbear, oil field operations have some exceptions for on duty time and how to log it.They can be found at FMCSA's website.You can search under HOS frequently asked questions.If your work for your company only includes an occasional trip with a CMV,don't log anything but your last seven days prior to going on duty.Don't log every day for the month while not operating a CMV,waste of paper and time.I have run local for the last few years so I am lucky not to have to show a log.I only run within a 100 mile air radius,just an electronic time card showing duty status.

 

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whichwaywest got it, I think

If you must log for the trip, you need only put zeros in the recap for the past 7 or 8 days (depending on the hours your company keeps). No other logging.

Whether you need to log or not is another question, of course. There's the 100 mile exception, which you have indicated does not apply. There's also the 12 hour exception. If you return to your starting point within 12 hours, and take at least a 10 hour break between your 12 hour stints, you are exempt from logging (see FMCSR 395.1(e)(1) - check sub-sections ii, iii, and iv. )

You will note, state lines and the like have no bearing as far as the FMCSR is concerned. State law.. may be a different story (but probably not)

 

He shouldn't be putting 0's in the recap if he was on duty any of those 7 days.

 

I talked to an old friend of mine that works in the oilfields, he says theres no need to log anything if in fact you have not driven and you are just working your regular job. So in esscence your recap will show all zeros...Logging on line 4 everyday would just be a waste of time, ink and paper.

 

Do you do physical work at your rig when it is being used or do you drop off the rig and you just get paid for your rig time? If you do any physical work at the rig and you get compensated for this work then you have to log it. If you park your rig and go back home for the month then you only have to show a off duty for those days. But either way you will have to show a log book for all days regardless. If you did not work for a whole month then you could show one page for that month as off duty. If you worked two days out of the month then you could show one page off duty up to the day you started working and show your regular work time, off duty or on duty driving, and show one page off duty for the rest of the month.
Now do you work for the same company in a different job and if you do then you will have to log all of your paid time on duty not driving. Now here is where the gray area begins.
Do you work for a different company or for yourself when your rig is being used. To be on the safe side then log all hours as on duty not driving and keep all logs in a safe place in case you need show these to a Judge for any reason. If you was to get into a serious accident would you rather tell the Judge you did not understand the law or have the logs in hand? Or at the very least have the paragraph from the DOT book that says that you don't have to log these hours of compensation.
If you have a laptop then maybe you could purchase software certified by the DOT to keep track of your logs and then their would be less of a storage problem compared to paper logs.
Have a great day.

 

Sugarbear,I worked local for an LTL company for many years.I delivered within a 100 mile radius of the terminal.I was not required to use a logbook,just a timecard.About once a month I was called up to do linehaul and go out of the 100 mile radius.Then I needed a log book.The only requirement was to do a recap of my last seven days to make sure I had the available hours.
1.If you operate the truck within a 100 mile radius, you only need a timecard and records be kept at your place of business.
2.When not operating the truck,you still only a need a timecard or the equivalent.
3.When you get back in the truck and go out of the 100 mile mark,you need to log it.Recap only needs to go seven days back.Your timesheet will cover any hours prior to this.