Eagle Logistics Services. Indianapolis, IN

@EagleOps u work your axx off and not get paid becoz some one in the office made a mistake or missed something...or your booked on a series of loads that only covers your fuel and truck payments!..u be away from your family weeks at a time....and u get yourself 20 years and maybe 6 years of trucking experience and u take the financial risk many drivers are taking then come back here with your resentment drivers are earning enough coz u seen some take home after there payments 1k that's laughable....shows your inexperience and also the total arrogance I have accused this company of operating with from management.....

 

It's becoz he has a non caring or inexperienced dm....probably a combo of both

 

@EagleOps If your in your 40's u look back at what u made in your twenties and laugh.....don't resent me for my age or experience...I earned that freaking higher paycheck with experience knowledge and years of learning....learning and experience u still have to do....

 

Not sure off hand, I know it's not 80/20 though like I said, and that split (only 20% broker) would be about perfect.

Then, and I'm not trying to be rude, why go the L/O route? One of the selling points of L/O is that you're buying equipment. If you don't want that, why do it?

 

Well u are rude and u are inexperienced and arrogant...lots do go into l/op in the hopes to own that equipment but to me that's a suckers bet becoz u pay to much for it and it's way old by the time it's actually yours...but also many times with not very good credit it's a good option....I do it with out expectation of owning the equipment but as a vehicle to earning higher than average weekly wages....except here u can't really do it....some do and 1k is not impressive at all....it's the companies model and reliance on low paying brokers and freight.....don't always be blaming the drivers....coz as I point out our 25 pays your salary....among many other benefits u might enjoy! So do us all a favor and don't come on here with that phoney stat that borders on recruitment and on marketing...becoz unless u truly drill down that is meaning less coz I'm sure I had weeks over that but maybe 1500 miles...but I leave out that I only had 1500 miles I give u a false impression and that's what u did.....u have a nice day sir...enjoy your drive home,enjoy your home kiss your gf or wife and pat your kids on the head if u have kids....but remember it's the 25%these drivers out here and can't see there kids wives and homes for weeks at a time can't....

 

He's not being rude, he just doesn't know what he doesn't know. Instead of getting angry at him, educate him.

Eagle Ops, L/O are liable ( read owe) taxes to the state + Feds, from that 1k. That equals a take home of about $700 give or take. Or to put it another way, for every 1k YOU make as an EAGLE employee, Eagle pays an additional 300 to 400 in payroll taxes AN EMPLOYEE NEVER SEES. O/O and L/O have to pay this....even AFTER PAYING FOR fuel, truck, permits, plates....

An OTR L/O should make 2 to 3k AFTER TRUCK EXPENSES but BEFORE PAYROLL TAXES.

 

Look at the posts above, all you've done for the last three pages is insult me. I haven't called you names or been rude. I corrected a mathematical error and instead of move on, you continue to hurl insults.

That's fine, but L/O is about owning you own equipment. If you think that's for suckers, why do it?

Eagle is providing new equipment with no credit check and no money down, it's part of what your 25% is buying you. There's a VERY high cost/risk in doing that.

Well, ok, but that's like ordering seafood at McDonalds and then complaining. If you wanted seafood, why go to McDonalds? L/O is all about a means to own your own equipment. If you get into it without wanting to own the truck, then you're there for the wrong reasons.

It's 100% true that Owner Ops will make more than $1k/week, but that's because they've already bought their truck. If you're a L/O and you're making truck payments, you need to include those in your salary, because it's part of what you're spending money on.

Again, you're looking at it the wrong way. If you make $1k/week, you're really making $1,800/week with your truck and trailer investment. You're joining a L/O program so you can pay for a truck as you work. The money that goes to the truck and trailer is yours, you've just already decided how to spend it.

I'm not blaming anyone. Without knowing a drivers' situation and history, there's no way to know who's at fault. I've said that in this thread a few posts ago.

I pulled it off our data pages, it's not phoney at all.

Driving a truck is incredibly hard, I've said that too, but I've seen a huge number of drivers succeed and fail. The vast majority have similar stories as to why the succeeded and failed. Good drivers tend to do things one way and failing drivers tend to do them another. Not always, but a lot of the time, it boils down to how they approached their business.

That's not really an accurate way to look at it. It works from a balance sheet perspective, but the reality is that if you aren't signing your L/O contract with the intent on finishing it and owner the equipment, then you shouldn't do it. You're going to pay between $600-$800 per week in payments, those had better be going to something, otherwise, being a company driver is probably a better solution.

And no doubt there are risks involved. I've seen more than one driver fail due to really bad luck. I've also seen a lot of drivers fail because of what they thought was bad luck, but was actually something else.

Also, this isn't a short term game. If you're working to own your own truck, you have to know that as soon as it's yours, you're going to see your profits increase by the amount that you were paying weekly. That's the goal, and for most, that's the endgame. Own the truck and suddenly 75% becomes 100% and $1k/week becomes $2.5k/week.

 

Absolutely, but there are advantages to being an O/O that I don't enjoy. The coffee machine I buy for my kitchen? Not tax deductible. The coffee machine a driver buys? Tax deductible. The fuel I buy to get to work? Not deductible. The fuel a driver buys at work? Absolutely deductible.

O/Os have a tremendous ability to remove tax burdens off themselves that those of us that don't own their own business don't get to enjoy. That has to be accounted for as well.

 

Oh I want it, but not this. was working on a 1 plan to buy one for cash made here and dump this one.

Nope its not a short game for me either. with in 2 yrs I will have a truck payed for and if Eagle improves I will stay. otherwise I will take my truck back to North Dakota and haul side dumps loaded with class 5 at $6-$8 a ton; 200-250 tons a day.

As for Eagle providing NEW Equipment....LOL not a chance, a Pro Star with a fancy hood maybe. but then you all in costs will be in 1200 wk neighborhood too.
No thanks

 

Exactly! That's the exact same choice everyone should make. If they like the people/company/etc they work with and are happy with their pay: Stay. If not: Leave. All of us, regardless of our job, have to make that choice every day.

And you're free to make that choice (I agree with you for the record. Paying $350/week for a used truck is much better than paying $620/week for a new option), but that doesn't mean it isn't an option.