I'm convinced that everything can give us cancer today. Still, I would do my best to avoid things like inhaling fumes and skin contact with petroleum products.
Is Lung cancer from diesel fumes common
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After reading that it did sound like I was taking a poke, I kinda was I guess but in a good natured way.
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I went for a time, and decided that the stale classroom setting was not for me. So, I never did more than attend about a year and a half of college.
I honestly just like to be informed and I also find such topics as this to be mentally stimulating and fascinating. If you look at my Netflix queue then you will see all sorts of documentaries along the same line.
That makes sense. One could also take it a step further and say that is generational accumulation as well.
In the Vietnam War I'm sure most of us are aware of a compound called agent orange. This was used as a defoliant to help combat the guerrilla warfare that the Vietnamese were using against our troops.
The irony of agent orange is that it was originally created, and at the right doses works extremely well, as a way to enhance the production of soybeans. Essentially, It prevents the soybean plant I'm going into it's dormant winter stages enforces the plant to continue to produce soybeans. At to hire a does it does the exact opposite and causes the plant to think that it is time to go into winter hibernation and thus the plant loses its leaves.
Again, this is something that is seen in today's Vietnamese population that is the cause of many things such as cleft palate and other birth defects.
These days, that's about all you can do. Unless, of course you would rather join a commune which grows everything itself and makes everything itself. Though, society like that would end up being like Stephen kings novel the village.
The battle for my sanity has long since been waged and it's outcome was complete loss of sanity. You my friend, are far too late.
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No poking here. I was honestly being curious as there are many sides to this argument about what is poisonous and causes us harm today.
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Well your articulate and funny I like guys like you hold your breath if your in california we don't need you dieing from cancer.
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Then it's a good thing I only haul in the Southeast!
If I had my druthers I would rather be working as an apprentice in the field of bioengineering that specifically relates to the manufacturing, research, and application of artificial and mechanical connections to the human body.
I would love To be on a team that can help restore normal function to someone who has lost use of parts of their body due to spinal injury.
That's why I'm here though, the price tag for that program is not cheap. A good program at a good school can easily run 50 grand in the states.Big Don Thanks this. -
There is a small community nearby in which an unusually large percentage of the elderly have been diagnosed with Parkinsons Disease. There is an old train yard at the edge of this community.
I have always wondered if these people were predisposed to this disease from birth.
When I was younger I considered buying a home there, but was warned by my 67 yr old neighbor to not move to that location because there was a lot of illness in that community.
As far as environment, I remember reading an article in the late 1980's about the EPA discovering high levels of lead on corner lots in big cities on main arterials. The lead was from the fuel additive, and was at very high levels in the old sections of towns where cars had idled at stop lights.
Some of this residential land was purchased by the city the old Victorian homes demolished, and rezoned to commercial.
Add the near meltdown and release of steam and waste from Hanford Nuclear reservation several decades ago.
http://www.psr.org/chapters/washington/hanford/hanford-facts.html
The waste disposal site that leached into the Columbia river!
We buried an old family friend (Green Beret, Vietnam) several years ago, he developed some kind of skin disease in his mid 30's and pretty much suffered until he died in 1996.
245-T is derived from plant hormones (auxins), and is a growth regulator probably still on the market, I know 24-D is, and is also an auxin derivative.
The Agent Orange that was produced for the Government was a chemical ####tail with no exact recipe, and was also a great way to get rid of other toxic by products that were produced in the processing of other pesticides.
We have a few things in common, I am a drop out (business systems analysis), A truck driver, and research absolutely everything that pops into my mind!
On the other hand, you can go back, finish your education and pursue a profession that both utilizes that education, and brings you happiness.
Me? Going back to college for 7 more credits to perform a job doing something I enjoy, BUT in an environment consisting of arrogant business people would be a complete waste! I am where I need to be!
ETA: And Stephen King FN Rocks!
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It is very interesting to see how things kind of "evolve" when it comes to how people are diagnosed with different illnesses.
Some of it is purely environmental, for instance the people that live close to the arctic circle (Canada, Maine, Alaska) are more prone to some nerve and neurological illnesses. There is, right now, no known cause for this but there are theories abound.
Then there are things like what we are speaking of.
As for agent orange, later in the war they may have swapped to something cheaper or just some random set of toxins that made the plants shed their leaves, but I'm pretty sure the "original" version of it was one of the two plant hormones you spoke of.
I recall an interview done with the scientist that stumbled upon it... He had said something that seems to hold true for many scientists. He was happy and ecstatic with his discovery, but distraught when he learned what it was being used for.
If I can find the article I'll post it here for anyone interested.
As for school... Yeah. Partly a money matter and partly just gotta suck it up. If I go that route and get into the area I want though I'd have a somewhat 9-5 job with the perk of once I'm established it can become a 6-figure salary. Money isn't everything, but I wouldn't complain either way as long as I'm living comfortably and am happy.
Back onto the topic though...
This calls for some thought. The average lifespan of a driver is what, 55?
It would be interesting to see a study on cause of death. However morbid it will be, I'm sure that it would yield some valuable information.
Even those of us who don't haul hazmat or have higher risk loads are exposed to any number of compounds and dangers before we even set one tire on a road.
Diesel fuel is the obvious one. Increased exposure, just from lack of oxygen, can lead to brain cell death. Extreme exposure could lead to asphyxiation just from inhaling.
I don't know much about DEF, but I do know it smells a hell of a lot like ammonia. (From what I understand of how it's made, it pretty much is.) Those of us who have hauled it know that's one that has to be placarded and is a compound that should be respected. It'll take your breath away.Last edited: Aug 12, 2015
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I think you're onto something here. I also did the same study and came up with. That 100% of people who drink water die.Mr.X, Big Don, Straight Stacks and 1 other person Thank this.
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