Miscellaneous Deck Questions

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by barroll, Nov 6, 2015.

  1. barroll

    barroll Road Train Member

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    I was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of any related rules and regulations when it comes to open deck trailer fabrication and support.

    I'll be replacing my deck soon, and have a few unconventional ideas, but I'd like to be well read and informed before I start cutting into an expensive mistake and possibly save a few billable engineering hours.

    The one subject I'm the least clear on is the regulation concerning engineering and mounting of load bearing surfaces below the main beams. Lumber racks and side boxes are fairly straightforward, but I'm looking to haul fairly dense product down there along with smaller LTL, so I'd like to be able to carry print outs of the rules with me in case I raise any eyebrows.

    One last question I have concerns the recessed channels some steel haulers have between their main beams used as bracing for their beveled coil timbers. What are these commonly referred to as?

    Thanks in advance for any help.
     
    Last edited: Nov 7, 2015
    Reason for edit: clarified objective
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  3. kylefitzy

    kylefitzy Road Train Member

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    Sounds interesting. I have heard the recess called a "coil well".
     
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  4. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    You're looking to carry product below the main beams?

    It's been 30 yrs since engineering school for me so I'm not going to be much help. Everything is done with finite element analysis software there days and it would be a big project for me to re-learn enough to accomplish your task and quite a challenge for someone with no design background. However you can Google words and phrases like "steel beam construction", " live loads", " factor of safety ", " handbook of steel construction ", " shear and moment diagram ", " beam deflection", "Young's modulus". You might find an online tutorial that will show you how to select beams.
     
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    rank Road Train Member

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    Just read your post again. If you're planning to attach stuff to the main beams, is a good idea to avoid hacking the upper and lower flanges. Try to drill your mounting holes in the center of the web (vertical part of the I-beam). The closer you get to the flanges the more you weaken the beam. Good luck.
     
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  6. barroll

    barroll Road Train Member

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    Thanks, rank, for the suggested reading. I'm aware of how to go about selecting beams, but I don't know what/if there is federal regulation on tolerance between yield/shear strength and WLL when it comes to selecting them, approved means of fastening, etc. I should have been more clear that I'm after the regulatory guidelines than engineering guidelines. (Edited OP to help reflect this)

    I've had plenty welded/bolted onto/taken off the web over the years, and have started to notice the toll it's taking on the bow of the beams. I was actually interested in getting into the legal regulations to see if/how much weight upper and lower crossmembers would legally be able to bear from underneath (either laden or unladen from the top) and to what degree of tolerance in order to either avoid or lessen the extent to which the beams themselves need to be modified. Crossmembers are much more easily replaced or beefed up than main beams.
     
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  7. dclerici1

    dclerici1 Medium Load Member

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    Try the TTMA (Truck Trailer Manufacturers Assoc.) website, you might find close to the info you're looking for there. Check their design/repair bulletins section. Just a thought.
     
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