Oversized Rate

Usually its either 90 or 95 ft, depending on the state. 16 ft height may require the pole car and maybe even a route survey. If the bottom of the l o ad is 51ft, you will need a trailer with a deck insert for that 2 ft youre short. If thats the case, and its heavy too, somebody's going to take a hit to the wallet.


But if hes correct, and it doesn't need pilot cars and not heavy, he should be fine.

 

As @TripleSix said, there's a lot of variables here. Rarely does a company have a good idea of actual loaded height unless this company ships a lot of the same thing consistently.

The lowest stretch step-decks you'll find you're still looking at a ride height at least around 28-inches, so on a 14-5 load, that makes it 16ft 9in. loaded height as an estimate (you'll also hear plenty of us involved in oversize that what we give are estimates, you'll never know your actual loaded height until you get it on the trailer). If the load length is 51-ft, and needs supported front to back, you will need a stretch step or lowboy.

If you don't need to support it front to back you have the option of hanging the rear of the load over the back of the trailer (on most stepdecks, this will give you between 10-13feet of rear overhang. Some states this will require a pilot, some it won't, but, the only state I can think of that 10ft rear overhang is legal without permitting is Colorado).

If you don't need to support it front to back, and hang it off the end, you'll need a tow-bar, you'll see us use these on occasion, they're just rear light bars with marker, brake, and turn signals that you run a pigtail to (although, if you don't have dual pigtails, or the trailer isn't provisioned with a rear pigtail, you'll have to splice a new 7-way in somehow).

If those are your loaded dimensions, that's an easy load if it isn't heavy, to get permitted in most places. 14-5 isn't all that tall and 11-wide isn't all that wide.

If you ask me, this sounds like a shack of some sort, either cell phone, oilfield, or something from the dimensions listed. Weights on those are all over. The rig shacks for the oilfields aren't that heavy, the cell phone tower shacks can be reasonably heavy (60,000-80,000lbs). If it's a cell phone shack you'll have to support it end-to-end.

If the 14-5 is ground to top of load off the trailer and you're over 16-foot, that's going to be a trip with A LOT of extra miles. I can't say much for Utah, but, Wyoming will be able to set a route for it, Nebraska, you might be ramping a lot of overpasses or being sent out-of-route. However, once you get east of Nebraska, being north of even 15ft tall becomes a whole different ball game.

What should the bid be?

Tell them you need A LOT more information to put together an accurate bid.

This is the problem with brokers getting into oversize. 99 out of 100 of them don't know what they're doing or what they're dealing with. Being given dimensions and weight is insufficient to determine what you'll need to do to move a load. How does the load need to be supported? Can certain pieces be removed? Can it be done with a beam lowboy or a cantilever deck? Low or high center of gravity? Machinery, is it running or non-running? Wide track, demolition chassis, long reach booms, sifting versus trenching buckets, high track or standard track dozers, U blades, straight blades, 16 versus 14ft blades on graders, 627 versus a 627 Super F, counterweight sizes and types (solid vs. filled).

"Well, it's a 330 Cat"

Figure the weight difference between a basic spec 330 Cat and a demo-spec, or even, not a true-long reach, but, with an extended stick or boom, 2ft longer on either section, and you're looking at jumping from 3-axle lowboys to 3-1s or closed quads.

There's a reason it's called specialized.

 

I used to think I would like to learn oversize. Then I read this.

Well maybe I would still do it but only with a good company with a good training program for it.

 

I'm curious and @TripleSix sparked my memory to ask something I've been meaning to ask. Where does 3+1 Benifits you more than 4 in s row? I know Ohio it doesn't, and to my knowledge neither do the surrounding states.

 

actually it does benefit you in ohio having 3+1 over a quad on certain routes. because of the (bridge) factor. some routes they will allow you to run with a 3+1 where a quad they wont.I-77 up by dover they wont route me down I-77 all the way with a quad but 3+1 I can. it depends on the weight also. some states don't give as much weight on a quad compared to a 3+1. Arkansas for example. they only give you 68000lbs on a quad. mo. 72000lbs for example.

 

You still can't get more than 80,000 on a 3+1, I've ran 80,000 on a quad right up 77 several times, I run 80,000 routinely in Ohio that's all I have without going to my super trailer and I never have routing trouble because of weight.

 

correct, 20000lbs per axle. but the weight and bridge of a 3+1 factors in for the routes in some cases. I have been running up 77 for the past two months on a quad with no detours. but coming back south they detour me everytime as a quad. but when I have my spreader bar on no detour. it all comes down to the route restrictions that they have on those certain routes..

 

If I had a stinger I might experiment but I don't nor do I miss those days. I wonder if I had a tandem stinger and tandem trailer if I could get 25,000 per axle, I should dummy up a permit and see. My super trailer is set up that way, I could pull the jeep and the flip and use it that way.

 

I don't see why not. 50 per tandem.