detroit cracks and cranks?

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  1. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    Sounds like typical '97 DDEC IV behavior to me...
     
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  3. heavyhaulerss

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    from the look on pic it does have the pre heater.
     
  4. heavyhaulerss

    heavyhaulerss Road Train Member

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    this O ring is it where the preheater screws in ?
     
  5. boneebone

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    It's not the Bottom Collar, which also has a O-ring, which is different than the Top Collar O -ring.


    It's right next to the drain valve and where the two coolant hoses go into the heater. It looks like a big thin nut, but it unscrews. One you unsrew it, there a O-ring attached to it.
     
  6. dynogt16

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    Im guessing i dont have it. I guess ill try the check valve.
     
  7. heavyhaulerss

    heavyhaulerss Road Train Member

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    o.k. now I'm really confused:biggrin_25512: I know that I do have the preheater. it is on when key is in on position. it is 12 volt. no coolant hoses at all. I have the davco 380 I have small bubbles visible in my davco, thinking it is a pick up tube cracked in tank, but hoping it could be something in the davco, the top collar & bottom collar -o- ring are fine as replaced every filter change. the bottom drain valve also replaced.

    I replaced the ball & spring in the check valve cause someone (not to mention my name) let a piece of foil from a anti gel bottle get into tank & caused a drain back problem. just wondering if there is another o ring somewhere that I have not changed already.
     
  8. boneebone

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    Post a picture of the underside of your Davco, (like if was turned bottom up) so I can see a clear picture of what it looks like.

    I have a Davco 385, so it might be configured differently than yours.
     
  9. GrapeApe

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    If you suspect that the Davco has an issue, just bypass it with a clear tube to check it. If you still get bubbles in the tube, the air is coming in before the Davco. Or you could take off the line from the tanks to the Davco and run it from a bucket of fuel to see if the air is still there. That'd at least give you a direction to go.
     
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  10. dynogt16

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    So. I noticed my lift pump has red rtv silicone on it... wonder if my problem is my lift pump.
     
  11. dynogt16

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    So the check valve fixed the starting issue. There was a peice of wire holding the check ball open.

    Now i got another issue. The boy before me bought a new ecm. Deisel doctor programmed it while it had the check valve cranking issue. When my buddy got the ecm on the truck the truck wouldnt start. He took the truck and ecm to diesel doctor so they could program it on the truck. Truck ran good. I fixed the check valve. Now it fires right off. BUT... i have to throttle it or it chokes and smokes. During idol it will run smooth then hesitate. When you hit the throttle its smooth. My question is if they adjusted the ecm while it had this issue. Could the ecm cause this slight miss and black smoke on start up? Freightliner service guy dont think so. But i think. They turned the fuel way up to pull fuel through the system.?
     
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