This actually isn't a question. I just signed up because I wanted to say Thank you to all the contributers on here.
I'm a new trucker, second week solo OTR and I've had tons of questions and it never fails that I end up back on this forum to get my question answered.
My most recent quandry was understanding how I'd be gaining back my hours at midnight. Granted the government's HOS website explained it well... in Latin, I needed a simpler explanation and I found it here on this forum.
Basically my issue was just not understanding it.
I had 4.25 hours left on my 70 today. I drove the hell out of that and took a break from 1500 until 2359 when I got back 13 hours. Now I can drive 6.75.
I dont know why it was so hard for my brain to wrap around the concept but you guys make it so easy to understand things.
So again, a huge Thank You to all of you!
HOS: Hours to be gained.
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by ElFannyBandido, Dec 26, 2015.
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It's just like staying up at night to see where the sun went when it went down. It will dawn on you.....ElFannyBandido, Mudguppy, jammer910Z and 2 others Thank this.
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It's simple. You add up your previous hours from the last 7 days. Subtract from 70. Those are your hours available today, which is day 8. On the 9th day, the hours you worked on day 1 are no longer calculated. You gain those hours back on day 9.
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So if you had waited another hour you would have had at least 13 hours to work with - and 11 hours of drive time.
You only stopped for 9 hours, which put you into a split situation.
One more hour would have completed your 10 hour break.Chewy352, ElFannyBandido and Lepton1 Thank this. -
*hours = driven/on duty
Day 1 10 hours 60 left
Day 2 8 hours 52 left
Day 3 10 hours 42 left
Day 4 11 hours 31 left
Day 5 6 hours 25 left
Day 6 10 hours 15 left
Day 7 9 hours 6 left
(add whats left on your 70 + day 1 hours)
Day 8 mid night 16 hours left
Day 8 11 hours 5 hours left
(add whats left on your 70 + day 2 hours)
Day 9 might night 5+8 = 13 hours left
Etc...
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This is right, and something for new drivers to pay attention to. Just because you have 4 hours today doesn't mean you should get underway in the morning. You can wait to start your pretrip inspection at 20:00 on home time zone, then at midnight as your 70 hour clock strikes zero you suddenly gain whatever hours you have coming back.
By paying attention to this you can choose to start later in order to have a continuous 11/14 to start your shift. It can make a difference in being able to make a delivery on time, or be able to get in and out of a metro area before rush hour.
Remember, you are selling your 70. Try to avoid wasting it on unpaid on duty time. Use strategy to manage your clock to your benefit.ElFannyBandido, tinytim, brian991219 and 3 others Thank this. -
I was scratching my head , wondering if he really took off rolling at midnight instead of waiting til 1am for the full 10hr break. Surely that was a typo.
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I think where most new drivers get confused with gaining hours back at midnight comes from is the fact they are not really taught paper logs anymore, it is all computer. They are given the basic explanation in school, but in the real world they run computer and it does all the calculations for them, heck a good friend of mine with 30+ years of driving on paper logs just switched to a large company with elogs and was very confused because his display would not give him anymore than 8 hours at a time, it was just the way the computer counted the time. If we still taught students how to run on recap, the way we did it prior to the 34 restart, then the hours gained at midnight would be second nature, but it is just not taught in the real world anymore.
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I'm sure there is some truth to that... But at the school I went to, we logged every day... From start of day to finish. Just like we were on the job. Any mistakes were 1 grade point. Every day.... Co drivers, breaks, on duty time, drive time, ect....
I knew more about paper logs and the rules than my trainer did when I got a job... LolLepton1 and brian991219 Thank this. -
And herein lies the lunacy of HOS; in order to be legal one is driving at a time that one may not be personally acclimated to be alert. If you had waited another hour (probably not able to get rest during this hour) you would have fulfilled your 10 allowing a new 11.brian991219 Thanks this.
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