Being scamed as a owner operator

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by RUSSELBURG, Jan 3, 2016.

  1. jn1427

    jn1427 Light Load Member

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    Lot of cutting there, but if you know the laws, any company that is paying on % must show you the actual billing papers, you can wait months or longer if you want and if you think they are not paying you the true %, you can have them audited for the whole time you are with them. And as far as % goes, I have not seen very many companies that offer to pay you 90% and they pay insurance, plates, tolls, scales, pre pass, etc. And many of the larger companies get you .30-.50 off of your fuel per gallon.
     
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  3. Old Man

    Old Man Road Train Member

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    I didn't know I am being scammed Maybe you should not make such a broad statement, all leases are not the same.

    I get 77% plus 100% of billed fuel surcharge, they pay liability, cargo and my tag, keep me 100% in compliance. Most of the freight I haul I see the bids and the freight bill's.I know what the customer is paying. Even though I am "being scammed" I some how manage to make a good living on less than 60000 miles a year.

    With fuel surcharge they are keeping less than 23%, 7% of that goes to the salesman of the account so less than 16% goes to the company.

    Most brokers are taking 10 to 20 percent and more and you have no way of knowing what they take.
     
  4. powerhousescott

    powerhousescott Medium Load Member

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    The guy that just owns a truck thinks the guy who has the authority is scamming him. It amazes me how those that have leased onto me in the past were the ones that lacked the integrity to perform the task that they agreed to do. I am very selective as to the operators that I allow to join my company anymore. I have found this industry to be full of scammers on each side of the fence. I believe that about only 1% of us in this industry or our nation even know what the word integrity means anymore. If a Leaser Operator thinks they are being scammed by a company then they should get their own authority and become an Owner Operator, otherwise they should be like Old Man and be happy with their situation and learn to make the best of it.
     
  5. truckthatpassesyouby

    truckthatpassesyouby Road Train Member

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    So, in other words, take it or leave it pal.
     
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  6. powerhousescott

    powerhousescott Medium Load Member

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    As far as I am concerned that is the way it is. When the driver or lease operator starts to tell me all the amazing crap that they can do with a rig, and how I need to pay them this, that, and the other, or my favorite one my last company paid me this. I quickly inform them that they should go back to their last company and just why in the heck are they taking up the oxygen in my room. Most of these boners out here on the road today barely know how to tie their own shoes, I bet half of them don't know how to wipe their A S S E S, sure don't smell like it half the time. LOL
     
  7. exhausted379

    exhausted379 Road Train Member

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    Just curious. Are you serious?
     
  8. Ubu

    Ubu Road Train Member

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    Try to keep up.

    He was already corrected by other posters and acknowledged his mistake in post #29 of this thread.
     
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  9. glitterglue

    glitterglue Light Load Member

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    I'm always serious :) .... I was called out, read what I did, saw the error of my ways ... yeah, it was a bad day! LOL
     
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  10. Flipflops

    Flipflops Heavy Load Member

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    Being leased onto a company you have to be careful. That's why I'll only be a company driver unless I have my own authority. At 10% you will pay everything and that 10% to the company isn't good. I mean mathematically it's not good cause a company has to provide a lot of guys with cash advances, and so many things. But at 10% to provide you with whatever and make a profit I will have to cut your rates.

    Now a company with direct shippers, a lot of discounts I'll have to take 25-30% to be "honest", and for everyone to be profitable.

    Anyone taking a 10% deal is running a cut from broker, cut from company rate and percentage. That applies to 96% running for 10%.
     
  11. Old Man

    Old Man Road Train Member

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    So you have your own authority how do you know how much the broker cut is
     
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