Question about box trucks

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by peasantgirl, Jan 17, 2016.

  1. peasantgirl

    peasantgirl Bobtail Member

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    I think y'all are missing the point that's it's going to a dealer, and not being used for commerce.
     
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  3. mr.speaker

    mr.speaker Light Load Member

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    The fact of the matter is that you should have stopped in NJ,Ohio,Illinois,Iowa,and Nebraska ...Just because they didn't chase you doesn't mean you were in the right..(Those little U haul trucks even have to stop there , "Technically")

    Technically you don't have to stop in Wyoming if the gross weight rating is under 26k lbs and not being used for commercial transport ,however, it "looks" like a commercial vehicle so you could get pulled over and let go, but that would be a hassle compared to the 2 minutes of just going through the point of entry

    Different states have different rules
     
  4. 59MackB61

    59MackB61 Light Load Member

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    You didn't stop yet so why worry, Hammer Down! More than likely they won't chase you, if they do it is a 10 minute delay

    Let us know how you make out!
     
  5. Ridgeline

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    Don't take this wrong, we are going to give you differing opinions and many of them wrong.

    This is from my experience buying and selling vehicles for 40 years - including trucks.

    First off what constitutes a CMV depends on the state. My state (Michigan) has three different definitions what a truck/commercial vehicle is, and not one of them is over 10k, the least amount is 5500 and the most is 8800 GVW. 10k and over means logging and supposed to be scaling in this state. 26k just means you don't need a CDL (however you need a chauffeurs license in this state) - that's all.

    Second and more important, he doesn't have to haul anything, he is buying it for commercial purposes, reselling it is a commercial venture, not a private. This is important to understand, he is licensed as a commercial dealer, not a private person. So again it is commercial and not for hire is really means nothing. Having the license plate and insurance isn't a bad thing, but overall you can get nailed for failure to stop. It is just like any one else in a commercial venture moving equipment.

    Stop, if they give you crap (which they won't), then you learned that you don't have to stop. It only takes a few minutes to stop in and say "hey am I supposed to stop?"
     
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  6. Bdog

    Bdog Road Train Member

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    The dealer is a commercial entity. Our pickups I was referencing are not hauling anything for hire. Just our own equipment and tools that we work with hence it is commercial.

    Now if you rented a box truck to move your household belongings that would be noncommercial but a truck used by a business even if moving their own things around is commercial.
     
  7. PackRatTDI

    PackRatTDI Licensed to Ill

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    You would be required to stop in New Mexico.
     
  8. GiantBeard

    GiantBeard Medium Load Member

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    Let me give an example:

    I tell all of our new employees at the farm to stop at scales, even though they drive our box trucks.

    They don't listen.

    The local scales are run down huts on the side of the road.

    Finally, one of our drivers had to take the 101 about 80 miles South of the farm, into Salinas, Ca. He blew a scale, he got chased, and then put out of service for a cracked torque bar.

    He was very confused, not being a real commercial driver, just driving a box truck, and all he had was an 'I told you so.'

    Bottom line: if the word truck is not preceded by 'pick up', stop at the station.
     
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  9. peasantgirl

    peasantgirl Bobtail Member

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    Actually, rental trucks DONT have to stop, according to the website. Vehicles with trailers have to stop. So someone with a uhaul trailer would have to stop, but a uhaul truck would not.
     
  10. peasantgirl

    peasantgirl Bobtail Member

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    I actually
    I actually stopped in NM with the last truck (coming out of El Paso), and I was told I didn't need to stop.
     
  11. Bdog

    Bdog Road Train Member

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    Nm requires a weight/distance trip permit if you are over 12k gross. I know I have had to buy them at the port of entry by Clovis
     
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