3406E won't fire up.

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  1. little truck

    little truck Bobtail Member

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    U need a crank or timing sincer
     
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  3. coffee mug

    coffee mug Light Load Member

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    Spray starter fluid inside the air cleaner.
     
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  4. little cat 500

    little cat 500 Road Train Member

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    you didnt get the ether in the motor if it didnt try to start
     
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  5. Superhauler

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    Ok, start with the easy stuff. Is it freezing where your at? If so fuel may be gelled in the filters not the tanks. Change filters. If that don't fix it. Then see if there is fuel pressure. After cranking it Crack the return fuel line at that valve block you pictured. If the pressure seams weak, it may be the check valve. It is in the bottom of that valve block. Takes a 1 in wrench to remove it. Keep in mind you have to have a minimum amount of fuel pressure for the injectors to fire. If it is below that minimum they wont. Also check and see if you have power to the ecm. You won't show codes for that.
     
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  6. Luwi67

    Luwi67 Heavy Load Member

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    Thanks guys for all the replies. Going to head out there in a few after lunch and tinker around with it.

    Yesterday I unscrewed the water separator and nice clean fuel was running out so I don't think there is gelling at all, it's not been too cold here, 40 now and the lowest in the last few days was in the high 20's overnight.

    That 1" check I replaced 14,590 miles ago only because the hex was messed up trying to remove the old one, sure hope it isn't that because it was $40 at cat and it's pretty new.
     
  7. Superhauler

    Superhauler TEACHER OF MEN

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    I have had those check valves bad right out of the box. Did you lube the o - ring that go on it before you installed it?
     
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  8. josh polk

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    If it has to have a minimum amount of fuel pressure for the injectors to fire but won't set a code if the pressure is to low then what tells the ECM Not to let them fire iv never heard this
     
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  9. Luwi67

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    Put on the old hand pump and pumped this thing about a thousand + times and nothing, the pump must be shot. Going to pick up a new one (the tall high volume PN 137-5541) at Cat tomorrow, THE PRICE....$115.60. HO Penn Cat has the highest prices in the world.

    Cranked the engine for about 10- 15 seconds with the bleed cracked on the valve body and no fuel came out. Oddly there is fuel in the valve body itself (took the bleeder completely out and fuel dribbled out) and also in the fuel filter head when I put the hand pump on.

    What is the easiest way to check if the ECM is getting power? There is no fuse in the battery box like some other guys have, never was since I've had the truck.
     
  10. pigeon river trucking

    pigeon river trucking Light Load Member

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    Sound like ecm not powering up if u r getting no smoke at all
     
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  11. pigeon river trucking

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    Does engine warn light come on when u turn key on then go out that usually means ecm is getting power
     
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