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Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Starboyjim, Apr 9, 2016.

  1. RedForeman

    RedForeman Momentum Conservationist

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    Congrats on the payoff. I have a last payment myself going out next month. It's a good feeling.

    I'll just echo what a few others have more or less said. If you're happy with it, keep on truckin, doing what you're doing. That right there is worth more than willingly going through the 6-12 month exercise you will always face with a new to you and unknown truck.

    Same way with the choices, like your quote. I now have one of each. A Freightliner with a green 12.7 and KW with a cat. The green one usually gets 1/2 mpg better. The KW with the yellow motor doesn't break as often, but costs more to fix when it does. Dead chickens and produce can't tell the difference. The bank never asks what truck did it when I deposit checks.
     
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  3. icsheeple

    icsheeple Trailing the Herd

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    Congrats. I'd keep it unless your not happy with the spec. Running trucks into the higher miles gets you married to them. Find a truck you really enjoy and paying the bills to keep it up isn't so bad.

    If I bought another truck I'd have every spec I wanted or I wouldn't buy. I'd also have the dedicated freight negotiated before buying as well. Buying the truck is easy, keeping it loaded with profitable freight is the real challenge.
     
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  4. Starboyjim

    Starboyjim Road Train Member

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    Excellent comments, IC, thanks. I am pretty stoked for the usual reasons, no payment, good credit history, commercial credit my first venture, and thinking about the short term future, 1-3 years. I like driving this truck and it works well for me. It would cost me a lot of money to get all the spec I want now that I know the value, the worth of things. And I'm sure you and quite a few others know, there's no such thing as a guaranteed good running truck, new or used, pre-emissions, full DPF/DEF. Always a risk. So I just put my buddy in the shop for new injectors, 6 of them, and figure to run, run, run thru the easy months then see what happens.

    Hey, IC, did you get what you wanted out of selling Old Red? Probably caused a little pain, eh?
     
  5. icsheeple

    icsheeple Trailing the Herd

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    Got what I wanted. Paid $19 sold for $20. I put a little money into it, maybe another $4k, but was making money with every new part installed. I can't complain. I learned a ton and for the most part enjoyed it. Just feels better to punch in and punch out.
     
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  6. Brandonpdx

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    I'd be tempted to just go new on a dry van. They can be had pretty reasonable. Save up a nice down payment, take a 2 year note on the rest of it and it shouldn't give you any mechanical trouble for a long long time. Somebody that posts here bought a new Great Dane for like $28k iirc.
     
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  7. Terry270

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    Plenty of good shape barely used trailers out there for sale from all the people going out of business right now. No sense in buying new.

    @Starboyjim how much is your company keeping you running for? Per mile after they take their cut?
     
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  8. Starboyjim

    Starboyjim Road Train Member

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    I lease my services to XPO Truckload (formerly Conway Truckload, you probably know their trucks & trailers.) Their compensation is per mile, $.95 all dispatched miles, reimburse all tolls and fees including scales, lots of discounted stuff like insurances, tires, so on, they pass the FSC straight thru, so I wind up around $.60-$.65/mile net, depending on how happy my Freightliner is. What's on your mind with that?

    Affording a trailer isn't a problem, I'd switch to a percentage company or O/O. My problem is my advanced age. I'm a hale and hearty (I actually am pretty healthy) 72 years old, and I'm thinking about it. Like, sitting in my boat with a fishing rod in my hand complaining that the fish are biting? Yup!

    Maybe a year more, maybe 2, hatefully 3 more years, I don't really know right now. I'll see what happens now that I don't have a truck payment any longer, by next cold season. But. If I remain leasing to them, there's no room for another truck, another driver, or a trailer payment. OK for me, good solid miles, consistent settlements (if I'd work more I'd earn more, of course) so I'm safe there for now, thinking about everything else.

    One thing for the transportation industry? There's a $200 Billion pot of money annual work, and to me that means this is America, there's always going to be work for anyone who wants it.
     
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  9. Starboyjim

    Starboyjim Road Train Member

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    Congratulations, Red! I was looking at the Truck Paper this morning (a bunch of criminals in there, but not all of them, I guess), Right now, 3 or 4 year old trucks with 1/2 milllion miles are going pretty high dollar. Like someone posted, who's to say if a truck like that would be any better than the one I've already babysat thru 3 years of running? And then, one year old trucks $145K? Come on!
     
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  10. Terry270

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    Definitely room for improvement on the pay. But these are rough times right now and if they are keeping you running decent number of miles I would stick it out for now. I can see things improving some time after the election most likely. Maybe then look into leasing on somewhere that will keep you over $2/mi for all miles
     
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  11. RedForeman

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    Thanks. Next month will be the fourth time making a final payment LOL. I'm at the point now that I will probably not replace these two trucks until the frames rot out from under them. But I'll probably put it in a frame shop anyway. Then rent a two year old truck from MHC or Penske while it's in there, just to remind myself why I should never ever buy one.

    The only reason the market is so high on 3-4 yr old trucks is the more reliable DEF emissions systems and people that need to drive them in California. Since it's more than a legal two day drive, I only travel there on Delta and don't need a late model truck for that trip.
     
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