Truck Driver Killed by his load 4-22-16

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by UltraZero, Apr 25, 2016.

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  1. May 23, 2016 #131
    truckdad

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    Anybody ever thought of using a couple sets of tire chains draped across the front of these loosely loaded steel loads? Pulling back? Just a thought.......
     
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  3. May 23, 2016 #132
    UltraZero

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    i understand the concept, but, I would like to see a real world test regarding securement. Given, I am talking about coils and not the pipe accident. I don't think there is anything that can be done regarding the pipe issue. There isn't any way to secure oily pipe where the surface it is sitting on is only a few inches. Given how heavy these pipes are, and how they are shipped, I can''t see what would stop them. In a coil situation, I can see they are held back by a significant force. I guess the problem is unless there is a device that can keep the item from initially moving, there might not be any hope. If in a hard braking situation, once the coil starts to move and brakes the first chain, it's now has energy and mass to continue to possibly break the next and the next and the next until it is free to stop in the cab and say hello.
     
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  4. May 23, 2016 #133
    allan5oh

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    You have to do the rear as well or things will just slide backwards as you go down the road and your chains will loosen up
     
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  5. May 23, 2016 #134
    mc8541ss

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    Talking about excessive, 5/8 for a standard flatbed would be a waste, none of the anchor points are rated for that. Most flat bedders have 3/8 or 5/16. I like the 3/8 myself but you have to go with the weekest point which are the anchor points.
     
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  7. May 23, 2016 #135
    Audiomaker

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    Funny, I see the flying coils as the harder one to stop.

    You might just have one pipe, or I-beam slide out of a pile. Earlier in this thread I compared this to a box of straws on its' side.
    You will notice in the horrific photos at the beginning that *all* of the steel didn't go through the cab...just enough though.
    In this case, I think a headboard might have avoided tragedy, but again... it all depends on how hard that deceleration is.

    A single 45k roll of steel shaped like a wheel?...not so sure.
     
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  8. May 23, 2016 #137
    UltraZero

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    I understand the connection on the trailer would be the weak point of the load securment with 5/8th chain. I was using the size/strength of 5/8th to entertain a possibility of the size/strength of a larger chain being able to stop a coil. That's all. If the pipe spool could handle 18,000lbs of securement, would the coil still break through the 5/8th chains?? :eek:
     
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  9. May 23, 2016 #137
    UltraZero

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    Not to get too far off the subject, I saw a driver carrying a huge coil with 2 chains and 1 strap about 6 months ago. When I saw him pass me, I immediately slowed down. Way down and let him go. Of course, he didn't reply to my comment on the CB regarding killing himself in the event of a panic stop.
     
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  10. May 23, 2016 #138
    daf105paccar

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    The most important to remember is that there is no magic bullet.
    It is the combination off several measures which make the load safe.
     
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  11. May 23, 2016 #139
    MACK E-6

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    That might not be a bad idea if you have loops welded to the frame rails on your deck, on either side of where a suicide loaded coil would sit. That would allow for two more possibly thicker chains to go over the coil from front to back.
     
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  12. May 24, 2016 #140
    spax

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    I heard a story not long ago about a driver losing a coil on a curve, coil rolled off and killed some folks. I don't know the facts and don't want to spread hearsay but it appeared all he got was a slap on the wrist and a ticket for improper load securement. Point is though there is so much responsibility for a properly secured load, if not for your own life then at least for someone else's.
     
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