Truck Driver Killed by his load 4-22-16

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by UltraZero, Apr 25, 2016.

  1. UltraZero

    UltraZero Medium Load Member

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    Maybe there is something here. Minimum (2) 1/2 chain secured to the frame that is not counted towards your 100% WLL securement compared to the weight of the load. Absolutely No Straps, unless to help secure a coil tarp. At least the 2 1/2 chains provide almost 50% securement alone on a 40K coil. still need to secure the coils as you would if the 2 1/2 chains were not there. extra Extra securement. Cought without the 1/2 chains, or proper securement, Bigggg Ticket... :rolleyes:
     
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  3. johndeere4020

    johndeere4020 Road Train Member

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    Why wouldn't the 1/2" chains count toward the total WLL and when did an unsecured load ticket become big?
     
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  4. mc8541ss

    mc8541ss Road Train Member

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    I don't hook chains to my frame, it's aluminum and to thick for the hooks. Also don't hook to my combos frame. 1st it would be stupid to require 1/2 inch chains and then not count towards the WLL. 2d they can be secured safely using 3/8 or 5/16 chains and the approved and rated tie down points on the trailer. Not like was posted by the o/p, Without making small cuts from chain hooks Into the main beam off the trailer. Sure in sure it doesn't weeken it doing it occasionally but repeatedly in the same spot where the main beam flexes could become a problem. I also don't like scuffing the paint on the frame. Opens the door for rust and corrosion. Also not sure what long term effect it could have pulling the main beam out sideways. Maybe none but I'm not a structural engineer. If it were feasible might could get manufacturer to add on securement point to be included with coil package.
     
  5. Zip_Zero_Zilch_00

    Zip_Zero_Zilch_00 Light Load Member

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    I was cleaning up something similar in MI a few months ago. I was sent to check why traffic was stopped in rush hour and found a flatbed with 3 hi-los and a pill shaped metal tank the size of a small car . He said he slammed on the brakes and these tiny little straps snapped. I am still a beginner but why no chains on this equipment? He started in the center lane and when he braked the hi-los pushed the tank through the cab and the went left and right falling off both sides as it took the path of least resistance. Each of them fell onto cars into the next lanes. He stood there like he couldnt be bothered while I tried to move the equipment and open even one lane.
     
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  6. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    Same reason for every "accident" like that. Laziness, ignorance, arrogance.
     
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  7. UltraZero

    UltraZero Medium Load Member

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    I was just thinking the base of 2 1/2 chains would be required no matter what. If you didn't have these chains, you were in big trouble... This way, if you had these two chains, and the regular required securement, you would certainly have a better chance of not killing yourself or someone else. Of course, there will be those renegade drivers that will still not want to put full securement on the load. If they didn't put the 1/2 chains on the load, there would be consequences. Stiff fines, or loss of the ability to haul coils. No to mention whatever comes with not having the proper load securement in the first place.

    I just don't want to see people get hurt/killed for not keeping the load on the truck.
     
  8. UltraZero

    UltraZero Medium Load Member

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    Now, regarding pipe, it's too bad there isn't some kind of $300 reusable pipe wrap that could go around the front of the load to act like a cradle to keep the load from shifting forward. Simple 6 point connection to the trailer. 6 points would provide 30k of additional securement. Something like a sling made of the same material straps are made of.. Something that can be folded and put away like a tarp, size would be 10 ft tall and 8.6 feet wide. (flexible on size if possible to accommodate different load sizes. .
     
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  9. johndeere4020

    johndeere4020 Road Train Member

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    Ok I might be a little lost, on a step/flat a half inch chain is no better than a 3/8, the stake pockets aren't rated as high as the WLL of the 3/8 chain so 1/2" is pointless. Second are you suggesting there should be stiff fines are saying there are?
     
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  10. Audiomaker

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    What get's me about the pipe deal is that the inner portions are not in direct contact with the securement.
    Ever offer someone a cigarette from a new pack by "flipping" the pack? The one's in the center always come out, while the one's touching the box stay put.

    What I don't like about the coils...aside from the fact that they are a Giant Steel Wheel.... is that the coil has leverage against the chain (looks like quite a bit). It's basically a big lever if it's trying to roll forward... a big lever trying to pry your chains apart (or the trailer) with a much greater force than the weight of the coil itself. My rigging experience tells me it's amplified several times.
    The contact point of the coil to the trailer is the fulcrum, and because it's circular, the entire weight of coil acts on the "lever". Looks like maybe a 2-1 ratio, so you'd need 90klbs of securement rating to really be safe.
     
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  11. Audiomaker

    Audiomaker Light Load Member

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    I drew it roughly... notice the mechanical advantage.
    The red dot is the chain attachment point.
    Coil.jpg
     
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