Hate the rate

Yeah but a t660 isn't really much differ from a Volvo. In fact it's kw's version of the Volvo.

 

Don't pull a dry ban so really have no clue what dry rates are. Pulling step deck rates are way down but if you look hard enough and have some good solid connections and relationships there's still some ok stuff out there

 

Couldn't agree more

 

Actually I took it another way. Sounded like me, sick and tired of 50 posts a week by guys crying about rates. Rates are definitely down when looking at it as average rate on all loads available. But there is still plenty of good loads with good rates to be had. But so many would rather wine about low rates than go fond the good rates.

 

Dry vanners came into one of my flat hauls recently and hacked my 1.90 cpm rate plus fsc to a buck a mile ..that cheap enough lol

 

That's true but really it's no different then the 100 posts of oh I went to Werner and got screwed. Or I did a lease purchase at cr England and they robbed me. Or I leased my truck to xyz carrier for $1.10 a mile with a 3500 mile a week guarantee and now I'm broke and out of business and it's all the carriers fault. Lol. It's always the same blame someone and take no responsibility. I took this thread as the OP was a bit upset and asking for a lil advice on what everyone in a general sense was trying to make work. And where they when they were just saying no and waiting on a better rate.

 

We all have different cost. I would say Cost plus 17% is a good way to figure out your bottom line.

 

I don't move for less than $2 a mile, my equipment is paid for so I understand if you do it for $1 a mile so you can lie to your lender that last month's payment "it's in the mail"....

 

Run the short hauls $2.30-$2.50 per mile ( Dry Van up to 15k pounds) - ( average haul 250-300 miles )

 

uh,no. that'd be the T2000. and don't forget peterbilts "me too T2" the 387/587.

peterbilt guys always seem to forget about that gem.