Low rates is there a bottom ?

Discussion in 'Car Hauler and Auto Carrier Trucking Forum' started by Nobroker, Jul 1, 2016.

  1. Nobroker

    Nobroker Medium Load Member

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    Okay 100% of my loads are c.d. I hate these brokers including these carrier/brokers. Ur and metro pay crap till they desperate to move something. It seems the goal is to run you into the dirt until the next guy thinks .28 cpm is good pay.My other gripe is why do these people think a load from auction has done you a favor walking six hours in 98 degree heat... thanks.I always thought any ting other than dealer to dealer should have a surcharge time wasted at these #### hole auctions deserve more pay.
    Time to organize rates and pull together with a national organization .
    These large carriers are getting way more than this 28 cpm they expect independent drivers to work for . We are paying for their trucks as well as ours. In this rate environment how can anyone buy a 280k truck with 28 cpm last three years has been a 9% grade that has no end in sight.
     
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  3. Terry270

    Terry270 Road Train Member

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    Set your per mile limit at 45¢ and don't worry about what doesn't pop up because it will just infuriate you
     
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  4. brian991219

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    It does suck that the rates are nose diving, but to be fair it is not all the broker or carriers that sub out work fault. I have worked for the last 15 years to build direct customers and even our rates are going down. I place much of the blame for dropping rates on the internet load boards like CD and third party logistics providers like Ready or Cars Arrive. It has made posting and accepting loads much to easy for shippers and carriers so there is no longer a premium to be paid to a carrier such as myself to find and maintain the relationships that lead to direct work. They have also come in and taken what used to be local or regional contracts and turned them into national agreements, cutting out small and mid-size carriers like myself, forcing us to contract with them for the work that used to be ours.

    If everyone would just stop moving these low ball rate loads, justifying it by saying "it gets me home" or "it pays the fuel" then the shippers would have to pay a more reasonable rate, but we as carriers are our own worst enemy by accepting the work at near or below cost.

    Bottom line as carriers, large or small, we control the "market rate" by either accepting the work or rejecting it until the rate is profitable. I will park my equipment before I contribute to the decline of the industry and move loads below my minimum threshold, which is based on my cost of operation plus a healthy profit margin. I operate a business and rightfully so expect a healthy return on my investment.
     
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    Terry270 Road Train Member

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    Terry270 Road Train Member

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    I wonder if a day will come when truckers of any type will understand this.
     
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  7. Nobroker

    Nobroker Medium Load Member

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    It's hard to understand and not blame middle men when you are paid $327 per unit and the broker charged $550 per unit. I carry the responsibility . How does anyone buy a 280k piece of equipment .
     
  8. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    A quote I read long ago has always stuck with me:

    "Trucking is an industry that even when capacity is tight, there is downward pressure on rates."

    I don't remember exactly who it was, and they didn't address the cause, but I'd guess it illustrates the lack of business sense common among small business owners. The fools have a chance to be the hammer instead of the nail, and all they do is beg for a bigger hammer!
     
  9. Nobroker

    Nobroker Medium Load Member

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    I may be the nail but my hammer is a $3800.00 truck payment that general rates don't support. I know that's my problem now. But as things stand 1+1 is not equaling 2.
     
  10. Tropsnart

    Tropsnart Road Train Member

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    Why would a broker pay more than they have to moving a car or a load? I've never seen anyone pay more for diesel because they thought the oil company profit margin isn't great enough. I agree with Terry270 that if you set your minimum and stick to it, you can forget about what UR and metro do. I've always found it easier to run my one truck than to try and run everyone elses business at the same time. Don't worry about how much the other party is making off each load. Take what works and forget the rest. Be prepared to sit if nothing meets your minimum.
     
  11. Nobroker

    Nobroker Medium Load Member

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    If you disagree brokers take every advantage possible fine. I'm never trying to screw a customer but if you think 40% for brokers is fair your helping to kill this bussiness. It's larger bussiness sweating the smaller, just the American way.Who cares about fair.
     
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