Hos question

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by chrism1367, Jul 18, 2016.

  1. chrism1367

    chrism1367 Light Load Member

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    If I were to work monday (start of new 70) from 1300 to 0100 tues am, it's 12 hours. Does that mean I couldn't come back till 11am later that morning to work for 7 hours straight because of 10 hour rule? Also what's the best trucking app out there right now? Thanks
     
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  3. TROOPER to TRUCKER

    TROOPER to TRUCKER Anything Is Possible

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    You still have 2 on the 14 you can use and since you didn't list your drive time can't answer that. However if you need more than 2 hours yes you need to take your 10.
     
  4. chrism1367

    chrism1367 Light Load Member

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    Ok thanks. Say I drove 6 hours. But the tues when I'm working the 7 hours, it would all be at the yard, no driving. What it is is, I'll be driving Monday 1pm till I don't know, anywhere from midnight to 130 am. I have official orientation the next day at 1030 am so I have to watch what I work the night before.
     
  5. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    You can be on duty not driving whenever you want for as long as you want. The hos rules only limit when you are eligible to drive.
     
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  6. haulhand

    haulhand Road Train Member

    If you're not going to be driving then it doesn't matter if you have a ten or not. You can work on duty for 200 hours straight if you want as long as you take a ten and a 34 before you drive again.
     
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  7. chrism1367

    chrism1367 Light Load Member

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    Ah ok, I see now. As long as I have a ten before I drive again then I'm good. Thanks
     
  8. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    A lot of drivers forget that all line 4 time counts against the 70 hours. If you log it that way and are over your 70 and get your logs checked you will be put out of service. Take the 34 before you drive.

    § 395.5: Maximum driving time for passenger-carrying vehicles.


    Subject to the exceptions and exemptions in § 395.1:

    (a) No motor carrier shall permit or require any driver used by it to drive a passenger-carrying commercial motor vehicle, nor shall any such driver drive a passenger-carrying commercial motor vehicle:

    (1) More than 10 hours following 8 consecutive hours off duty; or

    (2) For any period after having been on duty 15 hours following 8 consecutive hours off duty.

    (b) No motor carrier shall permit or require a driver of a passenger-carrying commercial motor vehicle to drive, nor shall any driver drive a passenger-carrying commercial motor vehicle, regardless of the number of motor carriers using the driver's services, for any period after—

    (1) Having been on duty 60 hours in any 7 consecutive days if the employing motor carrier does not operate commercial motor vehicles every day of the week; or

    (2) Having been on duty 70 hours in any period of 8 consecutive days if the employing motor carrier operates commercial motor vehicles every day of the week.




    § 395.2: Definitions.

    On-duty time means all time from the time a driver begins to work or is required to be in readiness to work until the time the driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work. On-duty time shall include:

    (1) All time at a plant, terminal, facility, or other property of a motor carrier or shipper, or on any public property, waiting to be dispatched, unless the driver has been relieved from duty by the motor carrier;

    (2) All time inspecting, servicing, or conditioning any commercial motor vehicle at any time;

    (3) All driving time as defined in the term driving time;

    (4) All time in or on a commercial motor vehicle, other than:

    (i) Time spent resting in or on a parked vehicle, except as otherwise provided in § 397.5 of this subchapter;

    (ii) Time spent resting in a sleeper berth; or

    (iii) Up to 2 hours riding in the passenger seat of a property-carrying vehicle moving on the highway immediately before or after a period of at least 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth;

    (5) All time loading or unloading a commercial motor vehicle, supervising, or assisting in the loading or unloading, attending a commercial motor vehicle being loaded or unloaded, remaining in readiness to operate the commercial motor vehicle, or in giving or receiving receipts for shipments loaded or unloaded;

    (6) All time repairing, obtaining assistance, or remaining in attendance upon a disabled commercial motor vehicle;

    (7) All time spent providing a breath sample or urine specimen, including travel time to and from the collection site, to comply with the random, reasonable suspicion, post-crash, or follow-up testing required by part 382 of this subchapter when directed by a motor carrier;


    (8) Performing any other work in the capacity, employ, or service of, a motor carrier; and


    (9) Performing any compensated work for a person who is not a motor carrier.
     
  9. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    In the old days you barely logged line 4. It was a killer then and still is a killer today.

    You can be up all day laying in dispatch waiting for a load, but that does not count until they hand you the trailer and tell you to be 500 miles overnight by morning.

    If you have any sense you tell them to hand that to someone else you are not going to be lawful or safe after having been up all day.

    You can shake, bend, iron, rattle the logs all you want in any infinite combination of hours. But that drive time is where it's going to get you. Lack of sleeper time or full 34 hour reset will get you too. Get in the habit of dropping off to sleep in that sleeper when you are waiting like that. They can get out from behind the desk and walk to your door and call you ready to go 500 miles overnight. And you will truly be ready minus some coffee and a bite to eat.
     
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  11. chrism1367

    chrism1367 Light Load Member

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    Thanks I think I got it. Still learning everything. Today went to take 30 minute break but forgot to hit off duty button, so he caught it before we moved luckily, and just had to take another 30 minute break :\
     
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