Anyone Using Blue Bloodhound???

Mr. Warner believes he is operating a "service", let's go with that... exactly why is he making legal determinations as to the employment status of third parties then? (not a question) His claims that anyone that uses his "service" is automatically an "independent contractor" is downright dangerous, in my opinion.

Its a flawed business model, the sooner they scrap it, the less money they will lose. imo

 

"Its a flawed business model, the sooner they scrap it, the less money they will lose. imo"

Sure enough their pretty website and app didn't write themselves. Viewing them is one of the closest things that I've seen in a long time to watching actual greenbacks be flushed down a toilet.

 

They won't lose much of any greenbacks as they have virtually no skin in the game. The process of hiring a driver and all costs associated will be on the carriers who would use this service. But like I said, once they'll hire on a fill-in driver they'll have no more use for Blue Bloodhound.

 

There is not much going on because they barely have any runs. I signed up weeks ago just to look at their business model and see what they were doing plus they give you a $50 gift card so I got something out of my time. At most they tend to have about 23 to 26 loads across the country between 3 to 5 sketchy companies and the loads never change, same ones posted day after day.

I pointed this out to the recruiter and he just brushed it off saying they are focusing on getting drivers signed up right now and will work on getting carriers signed up in the future. I wouldn't hold my breath on them being around for long unless they have some serious venture capitalists bankrolling them.

 

Seems like all this service really does for the driver (assuming it actually works) is reduce the red tape involved with hopping from company to company. It's doubtful the "drivers who like to hop from company to company who can't afford their own truck" market is big enough to ever bring them a profit regardless of how much cash gets thrown at the idea.

 

Another thing is it could just be a convoluted job board where a carrier can see how well you work and if they like what they see can hire you full time. BBH has already done the background, MVR, and employment checks so that would cut down on a carriers upfront costs of vetting a driver especially if they only need a driver part time a dozen or so times a year.

The income per run is not that much better than a mega carrier, anywhere from .38 to .48 cents a mile for the independent driver so BBH may be offering a bit of a discount for carriers and then taking the remaining balance of the invoice to cover their expenses. I'm not signed on as a O/O so I don't know if they are getting better rates. Since BBH doesn't have dispatchers, mechanics, dropyards, etc like a regular carrier they could be making some good money if they get enough carriers onboard.

The only thing I don't see is according to the FAQ the driver is responsible for being part of a drug testing consortium. BBH didn't ask me to be tested before being approved by them so I don't know how that is going to work unless I pay upfront for those costs, not something I was willing to do since I already have a job.

Here is the FAQ regarding testing.

 

And you end up with a bunch of FAQers. How little anything has changed!

 

The problem is.... from what I can gather from other postings on the internet, they were telling drivers they already had carriers signed up. (I do not have first hand information) They are wanting all the benefits of being a temp agency, without the headaches of having employees.... well, there is no free lunch. Actually, I think they do have VC money but its probably not going to matter because the business model is fubar.

I would think carriers would be insane to be a part of this, each his own, just my opinion.

 

How much do you want to bet those are fake loads. Just a prop. used to make this seam legitimate. I suspect nothing has been hauled be Bluebloudhound drivers and those loads only exist on the computer. I believe it when I see a believable witness with a paycheck.

I suspect they are just Data mining and are selling the data they collect to some other company.

 

I think what they are selling to the carriers is they get a load delivered at below market rate plus they do not have to deal with things like payroll taxes, unemployment, etc. Their overall load breakdown appears to be 80% dedicated deliveries in a local market and 20% cross country. If a carrier only needs a driver 2 or 3 times a week to deliver locally it's probably cheaper going though a temp agency like BBH.

Could be, I have no idea but the companies I know that sell emails, addresses, and phone numbers only get paid 0.2 to 0.3 cents per lead. Since BBH is giving out $50 gift cards to sign up they would be losing big money if they were only doing this to collect data.

The two people I've talked to over the phone did not apply any high pressure sales techniques and were knowledgeable about the industry. I didn't hear anything that sounded like BS from them and I generally felt they were doing this because they believed in the business. Like I said earlier there is potential for this business plan to work but they need to get more committed carriers onboard and some real life experiences from drivers before they can be trusted.