Another excavator hits bridge

I don't understand the analogy, what is Keen's concern?

 

Oh come on...the shippers only responsibility is to pay the invoice. Anything else is just silly. Hold the bridge engineer liable for a design flaw too? May as well get any pedestrian walking across too I 'spose.
Perfect example of what's wrong with 1/2 our society.

 

I agree with you, friend. It would help us all if there were more diligent brokers and less unqualified drivers. Putting the morons out of work...I am all for that. You are speaking my language now!
But then the bleeding hearts, the very same people who are pissed at sitting in a 10 mile backup because of ####### the Driver, would be the very ones to say, "Oh, poor Mr #######, he was only trying to feed his family. That bridge is the problem. If that evil bridge wasn't there, Mr ####### would never have any problems. So what should be done, is they should have an electronic height monitoring system so that people like ####### won't run into issues. I will write my congressman."

Well, in his defense, I do have to remember that it was the US Dept of Labor that said that drivers are not professional, which would require all drivers to be QUALIFIED, instead of steeringwheelholder. It's the goobermints fault that unqualified drivers can get in the industry to keep the freight rates down.

As far as those goofy lawyers go, they can name anyone they want in a suit. Pure scare tactic that only works on unqualified drivers. Contrary to what the uneducated general public believes, and what the fearmongers in this industry want you to believe, those ambulance chasing lawyers, are the bottom feeders of their industry. They get their arses handed to then, with the head of their clients shoved in Uranus on a regular basis when they get into the ring with the A Gamers.

Every time a moron gets caught doing something illegal, the shipper isn't in jeopardy, the LOAD is. Keen does what it does to protect the load. Legally, if a driver leaves their yard, nothing comes back on Keen. But they lose the load. Some customer somewhere orders a machine, has it sold, and then the load is gone. Time is wasted. Time is most important in the grand scheme of things.

 

Keen in their Il yards want a copy of your Il permit before you can leave
Rumor has it, there was a problem years ago and it was going all the way up the food chain do to speak. No they can say hey, here is the permit they gave us and that clears us and Cat..

 

Absolutely, I took our 304 Cat up over the tag a long, and walked it over the tongue up into the back of the twin screw truck pulling it. Then loaded a 420 Cat hoe on the trailer. Birmingham to WV no issues and not over 13-6 but right at it.
Just like the little O'l lady that pee'd in the ocean, ever little bit helps.

 

If I was a company as big as keen with a contract as big as caterpillar, I would make sure that everyone has their permits and loads are secure properly before they leave the yard.

Not because I want to or because it's the right thing going to do but I would because it would keep my gravy train going.

 

They went full tilt years ago. Securement their way or the highway, permits for OSOW before you load...etc.

Story time: A friend of mine pulled a load out of a shipper, went 1000 miles to a receiver. Was taking his straps off when part of the load fell on top of him. Broke his back in 3 places.

He got a lawyer. They named shipper and receiver in the lawsuit. They threaten and filed, and the shippers lawyers stalled them out for a few years. My buddy's lawyers were one of those 'we don't get paid unless we win' types. They flew him all over to specialists to look at his back, wine and dine him and his wife...red carpet treatment. When the other lawyers finally got tired of the nuisance, they showed them the statute already on the books which state basically what I said before, driver is 100% responsible after he leaves the shipper.

They never made it to court. My buddy got dropped off at his house and never heard from anyone again. His lawyers got d e s t r o y e d. KO, full 10 count and still asleep for the ambulance ride. KTFO!!!!!!!!!!

 

Lawsuits can and do get nasty. Even if you settle and think you won. There are repercussions later.. trust me..

 

That's what society has become. "Who can I blame for this to avoid responsibility?" Responsibility to the responsible is what I believe. It's all this coddling and "participation awards" kids are getting these days.