CHAINING...are you ready?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by otherhalftw, Oct 22, 2011.

  1. bluerider

    bluerider Light Load Member

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    Chaining? Not me. I go to Costa Rica in the winter. I'm a weather wimp. You would be too if you spent a few years as a bicycle messenger in NYC.
     
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  3. Big Don

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    Geeze, I didn't know anybody survived that job to move on to something else!:eek::D
     
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  4. Toomanybikes

    Toomanybikes Road Train Member

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    Their is no primary drive on todays trucks. Both axles drive the same and weigh the same. Somehow this BS comes up every chaining season.

    Put the chains on the drive that easiest to get to and be done with it. It's a miserable job to do in the first place, and the less time you waste doing it, the safer you will be. Most trailers sit back aways from the front driver and that makes them easier to get to and chain.

    I don't now of any locality that requires you to chain one driver over another. So do what is easier.

    Even if their was a theoretical difference between drives, just one set of chains on either driver is almost overkill by the time chains are required. Anything more then one drive set and a drag, is usually just assurance by the local law enforcement to keep idiots off the road and from sticking their trucks on the road and blocking traffic.
     
  5. Rugerfan

    Rugerfan Road Train Member

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    Well California regulations state that when full chain law is in effect you're to chain the front drive axle with a set of triples and the rear drive axle with a single chain.
     
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  6. Toomanybikes

    Toomanybikes Road Train Member

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    ^^ Evidence please.

    That is not what CA DOT says.
    http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/roadinfo/ChainRequire.pdf

    The info I have seen read to the affect 'two chains on the main drive axle.' On todays modern truck their is no main drive axle. In years past when the industry was converting to twin drive, it was common for the front drive axle to be loaded heavier due to suspension designs at a time when dead tag axles were common. That time is no more, and the instruction cards I have seen from CA trans. often shows both axles are acceptable.
     
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  7. Rugerfan

    Rugerfan Road Train Member

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    image.png There's your evidence.
     
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  8. Toomanybikes

    Toomanybikes Road Train Member

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    Yes right there:

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    and right there:
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  9. Rugerfan

    Rugerfan Road Train Member

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    But if you've ever been in Cali in the winter you'd know that 9 out of 10 times they require the max with chains on both. Rarely do they allow just a single chain. Anything else you'd like to argue about?
     
  10. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    What you are referring to was called "Maximum Chains"...for the winter season of 2009-2010, CalDot modified the rule by allowing what is known as "Modified-Max". The difference was that the front drive on the older models was the primary and the rear was secondary. On current models, as was stated, both drives have equal prominence...the rear being actuated by the differential switch....funny, it was the same with the older models.....who'd a thunk(?)!

    Even with Max chains required, there was never a requirement for "3 railers" (as you put it "triples"). It was completely acceptable to use two singles on each side of the forward drive. With max or with modified max, one rule does still exist, you cannot stagger the applied chains....or to clarify, forward drive getting outside on the left and inside on the right, and vice versa for the rear drive. Drive axle chains must be applied the same on both sides. The drag chains can be staggered.

    Another rule that has remained regarding the number of chains required is that if you use cables, you must follow the "maximum chain" application....front drive inside and out, rear drive outside, and drag chains.
     
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  11. Toomanybikes

    Toomanybikes Road Train Member

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    Just a discussion.

    My point is their is no "main drive axle" like a hear about every year around chain discussion. Those that claim otherwise cannot even get on the same page as to what axle that is.

    ^^^ Cal Trans hands out those chaining cards each year when they threatening the chain requirement. Over the years I have gotten them they are seldom the same but they often go more in depth the requirements .
     
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