im glad i stopped here first.

Discussion in 'Report A BAD Trucking Company Here' started by nontrucker, Sep 15, 2016.

  1. White Dog

    White Dog Road Train Member

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    My thoughts are thusly:
    The more you talk, the more I believe you less.
    I don't believe for one second the driver rolled back 8 to 10 feet.
    Now you're exaggerating to keep the thread going....you don't have to do that; people will comment forever on this subject.
     
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  3. nontrucker

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    okay, i'll keep it short:
    you are wrong.
     
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  4. skellr

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    We are suppose to keep it in gear when stopped, so usually one foot on the clutch and one on the brake. It takes a bit of pressure on the brake to hold a loaded truck on an incline, not a whole lot, but its easter to hold in the clutch. After a while your leg will get tired and you can't feel how much pressure you have on the brake and the tuck can start to roll back.

    Anyone that is paying attention will catch it after only a few inches of rolling back. Maybe a foot or two for people that are especially slow, any more than that is unexcusable, IMO.

    I think we all would like that driver to find another job.
     
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  5. nontrucker

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    now THAT makes sense- a lot more than my theory of falling asleep in stop and go traffic. thanks skellr. having never driven a truck, that's a condition I had no way of knowing.

    I think that was my motivation for starting this thread. I couldn't wrap my head around how the accident was even possible.
    BUT at night, with inattentiveness, the truck moving back could be mistaken as if the traffic alongside was moving forward, particularly if he was looking at that- instead of ahead.

    to avoid being accused of having nothing better to do than perpetuate a conversation ad nauseum, I'm going to say my final thanks to everyone for the input and call it a day.

    *to white dog-
    I didn't have a tape measure handy, but my estimate of 8-10 feet was actually a bit conservative. Here's how I arrived at that number:
    1) when he first started back, I assumed he was declutching into first and I didn't think much of it until it was getting excessive. that easily covered 2-3 feet because on the occasions drivers have rolled back in the past, they've always got it in gear and moved forward. I had no reason to think different.
    2) when it became clearer that this guy might not stop, I did what 90% of near-panicked drivers do. I leaned on my horn. at this point, there's little doubt in my mind or memory another 2-3ft rolled away.
    3) now he's within 3ft of me and i'm certain contact is imminent. I shifted to reverse and kept pace with the truck for maybe 3ft when I heard the truck behind me give a solid but brief blast of his horn.
    4) all I had left was to clamp on the brake and watch the last foot or so disappear into a thud.
    you can believe whatever you want to believe, but that's how it went down. there's nothing sinister about my posts, either. please keep on trucking, because you suck at psycho-analysis.
     
  6. The Patriot

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    non trucker...I will add this. Unless I know another driver or see the great work/driving he or she is doing...I am very bias against most truck drivers. Having driven now 13 years since coming home from the war... I have seen the dumbest people on the planet that somehow obtained a thing called a commercial license and drive heavy loads on our highways and streets that I would not not otherwise trust with a tricycle. The industry needs a rework from the ground up...deregulate in some areas and regulate in others but not like it is currently... and a huge help would be a simple IQ/Common sense test.
     
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  7. x1Heavy

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    Most of the time truck mashes car. And you. You do NOT want to be around trucks. Heck, I don't get near trucks much myself anymore on the freeway. Most I will do is pass those governed at 66 or slower because in our state we have 70 flat for everyone.

    I think you did correct taking down the information and having Swift see what they can do for you.

    Im not going to pick on swift despite my own hard earned run ins with them primarly east of rockies, western swift were more better in the mountains. But I will say that any idiot driver will not be long in the industry once he or she is identified as a costly accident generator.

    You can do one thing that helps yourself in the future. Avoid being close to trucks. I do.

    Good luck.
     
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  8. White Dog

    White Dog Road Train Member

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    LOL! Apparently, I got under your skin with my comment. You don't have to explain yourself to me, but thank you.
    My comment was fueled by utter disbelief that anyone (experienced or rookie) could allow there truck to roll that distance without noticing it. Like skellr said...it's usually noticed within a few inches, or a foot at the VERY most.
    This driver definitely has something wrong with his/her depth perception and/or peripheral vision---or just a real 'space case' (all of which are SUPPOSED to be tested during a DOT physical and DMV eye exam).

    Heck, I have freaked out before when a lane on either side of me has moved, and it felt like I was the one moving...I'd mash down even harder on my break, only to find out I was not the one moving. A little embarrassing in my own head. Can't fathom 8 to 10 feet. If I did 8 to 10 feet without noticing, I would voluntarily turn in the keys, and go find a different profession.
     
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  9. Gunner75

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    @White Dog, roll backs that far do happen, i watched a guy in my orientation class with tmc roll back at a stop sign while doing their initial road test and rolled back into another tmc truck. They let the guy go 2 hours later. They do happen. The swift driver in question was probably on his phone not paying attention.
     
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  10. nontrucker

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    okay, I admit I had to return to see if you commented. thanks for your standup reply and yes, you did hit a nerve there! lol!
    like you, I found it hard to believe (and I was there) and I've been fooled briefly by adjacent traffic myself, so I think skellr offers the most plausible explanation for this one. the distance is the part only the driver can explain.......if the guy even knows he was moving. best to ya, bud.
     
  11. AModelCat

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    I believe in karma. The universe owes you 1 at some point now.
     
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