Need help understanding fuel permits

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  1. JoeF2002

    JoeF2002 Light Load Member

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    Hey everyone - so this is all new to me and the "www" hasn't been very clear from what I can find. So I'd appreciate any insights!

    I drive a not-for-hire big rig (tractor only / no trailer) with 3 axles. It is not used commercially. It was recently brought to my attention that I need fuel permits because of the weight rating / axles. As a newbie here, I'm trying to understand how these work. Basically my questions are:

    a) I live in PA and plan to do most of my driving within the state, occasionally crossing state lines to visit family and friends. Do I need fuel permit to even drive on the roads in PA?

    b) If I cross state lines, do I need to purchase fuel permits for every single state I plan on driving through?

    c) How do I go about getting fuel permits? Is there a central website or something?

    Thanks everyone.
     
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  3. ibcalm19

    ibcalm19 Road Train Member

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    What is the tractor going to be used for a personal vehicle?
     
  4. JoeF2002

    JoeF2002 Light Load Member

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    I built the world's only replica of Optimus Prime from Transformers. Just a custom truck I will tool around in...Hopefully bringing a smile or two on the highway along the way. So yes it's a personal vehicle and has been registered/insured that way
     
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  5. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    I (and a few others on here) kinda figured you were doing something like that. Now that you've finally admitted it, you have to show us some pics.
     
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  6. brian991219

    brian991219 Road Train Member

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    Pennsylvania has a rule requiring fuel decals on any three or more axle vehicle, however it is not supposed to apply to personal vehicles. Contact your local Pa Department of Revenue office, they handle both the Pa only fuel decals for non-apportioned registered vehicles as well as the IFTA decals and accounts for commercial vehicles that need them. As long as you are not getting any promotional consideration such as sponsor ships, appearance fees, advertising for a custom shop, etc then you should qualify as a personal use vehicle in Pennsylvania, and other states by reference. Then you can operate this truck without a commercial driver license (note that Pa requires a non-commercial class a,b, or c license which follow the same weight definitions as a cdl), using regular truck plates, and an annual inspection (same as an RV).
     
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  7. JoeF2002

    JoeF2002 Light Load Member

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    Www.facebook.com/Optimusishere :)
     
  8. TROOPER to TRUCKER

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    He did you missed it lol
     
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  9. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    WOW!!! Amazing job on that! I'd hate to even guess how many hours went into that. Good work!
     
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  10. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    I was too distracted hanging out on your gaming thread lol.
     
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  11. JoeF2002

    JoeF2002 Light Load Member

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    I do have the CDL class a. I already confirmed I don't need a dot number. What you mention about the 3 axle rule is what I have found as well. Have you see anything in writing with that exception you mentioned that it wouldnt apply to personal use vehicles? So far I havent
     
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