Max time you spend in sleeper birth?

But but but aren't yard dogs on a time card of sorts?

 

I know. But in a logical world of real problems based on my original post, nobody was staying at the t/s indefinitely. They would all be leaving at some point and hos would apply. Exray took a wierd tangent and got away from my post because he wanted to say the hos doesn't apply to t/s. When it does apply to cmv drivers at a t/s.

 

Yes, however most of the time the things that govern this is the carrier and their requirements. Several years ago a Werner truck turned way to short and his speed in the turn was so fast his tandems destroyed the front of the Pete he hit. (this is why I have always advised to NEVER park on an end) I spoke to the driver as he was right next to me. His tractor was messed up real bad and he had to clean it out. If I understand it his company wanted him on line 4 while the insurance adjuster was on site. The carriers dictate so much of a drivers off duty status and how they document it.

 

Thats my point, they do not apply in the way you are trying to say.

 

Yes, I agree. I've agreed with all your posts before you told me I was wrong. I was trying to state scottie as wrong, and his off duty logging is falsification if he is not relieved from his duties. I.e. he gets hit at a t/s, he'll have to show where he went on duty for an event that he should have been relieved from. I was also saying if he was line 2 and drinking, came back and went to line 1, got hit and now he has a catch 22. He has to legally be there since he isn't relived of his duties per the FMCSA guidelines of line 2, but legally he is not sober because he was drinking on line 1 and came back to line 2 before being under the FMCSA rules of 0.04% four hours prior.

 

I should get some sleep, forget about this, and move on. I feel like we're at the same idea, I'm just coming across misinterpreted.

That's no fault of you, but I could word it better. But I won't. It won't change too much.

 

When you get off a public highway and have little or no time left on your 11 or 14 hours you are mandated to take a 10 hour break somewhere. What you do during that 10 hours is up to you. If you want you can play pinball all 10 hours. You do not have to have your log current during that 10 hours. However once that 10 hours is over you are mandated to have your logs current to put that CMV back on a public highway. There is NO rule anywhere in the FMCSA rules that mandates your log be current before that time. As has been said the carriers may mandate a tighter restriction and if they do it is the carrier NOT the FMCSA doing it.

 

Honestly some of the postings in this thread have had my head shaking all day.

 

Point taken. Im probably combining FMCSA and carrier rules. I may dig tomorrow on FMCSA and t/s. Probably not. As I didn't see dick in the entire hos I read tonight to support my hos.

Now what if this happened at a rest area? Say a state owned one. Like the ones on i80 in pa. Dot has them marked for portable scales and they set them as inspection sites. So I don't think they're private property.