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Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by TruckerVinny, Oct 28, 2016.

  1. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    Driver that inspection report will be reported to the FMCSA and will impact your carrier's CSA score, and will become part of your driver history. If this is the only violation you have had you are OK. Don't be concerned, just try to not get anymore write ups.
     
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  3. KMac

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    There is a "score", you just don't have access to it, neither does your carrier or the public, but Law Enforcement does.

    If a violation is is related to unsafe driving, the violation is scaled by severity and time. Rack up enough of those violations and there will be an intervention or a driver placed OOS.

    This is a component of the CSA Program. So yes, drivers have a score, and yes they accumulate "points", but no, you can not see them.

    http://www.csa2010.com/articles/DSMS_(Driver_Safety_Measurement_System)_Methodology.htm
     
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  4. not4hire

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    Can a driver obtain their own PSP record?

    Yes. A driver can obtain a copy of their PSP record through the PSP online service at any time using this link. Drivers may also obtain their own information free of charge from FMCSA by submitting a Privacy Act request.

    https://www.psp.fmcsa.dot.gov/psp/FAQ.aspx
     
  5. KMac

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    The PSP is different than the DSMS I am refering to. That score is not availible to anyone except law enforcement.
     
  6. not4hire

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    Yes, but while the specific "score" is not available, the information originates from the same source(s) and a format is available to drivers and carriers. So it is safe to say that the information is indeed available.

    Currently, the DSMS results are being used strictly as an investigative tool for law enforcement and are not available to carriers, drivers, or the public. However, the raw safety information from roadside inspections and crashes that feeds the DSMS is compiled by the same system that will provide CMV driver-based data to FMCSA‘s Driver Pre-Employment Screening Program (PSP).

    http://www.csa2010.com/articles/DSMS_(Driver_Safety_Measurement_System)_Methodology.htm
     
  7. Moose1958

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    I have actually ordered a copy of mine about the time I sent off for a copy of my DAC file. All it had on it was data from an inspection at the Missouri scales in 2010 where I had a lights out violation. No points that I could see just raw data. I have been trying to find it so I could scan it in. If anybody here has one and is willing to redact it and post it. I think it can be educational.
     
  8. Moose1958

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    I don't think the information is automatically available unless the driver signs a specifically formatted form to release it. This is why it is internal FMCSA information to monitor drivers. This is a very complicated subject. It is hard to understand. In a way it is a lot like the MCSAP regulations. There there but very complicated.
     
  9. KMac

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    The point is Drivers do have a score, but no, it is not avIlible to Anyone except law enforcement.
     
  10. Moose1958

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    What you are saying is true... and irrelevant. The fact that there is no "score" correlated to a driver's PSP is unimportant. The reality is that the information is, in fact, available to drivers and carriers. It would take very little time to create a "scored" PSP using the readily available records and the CSA scores. Apply the same scores to a driver as are applied to a carrier for the same violations and... voila, scored PSPs. If anyone thinks carriers are not doing some form of this they're dreaming.

    We have a similar tool up here with a commercial driver's abstract which shows all inspections and traffic violations for the past three, five or ten years. When I hired drivers I insisted on a current copy and also got a copy at least annually, but sometimes semi-annually. I can't imagine any responsible carrier not doing the same.
     
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