House votes to end Mexican truck program

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  1. cap1022

    cap1022 Bobtail Member

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    And just what freight are those mexican trucks bringing out of mexico? how about from all the factories that have relocated there. I feel that's what has cost the jobs.
     
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  3. Southern Belle

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    Here is a little economics for you, current diesel cost in America 4.00 a gallon. Cost in Mexico around 2.00 a gallon. A few stolen tanks from America and Mexican trucks can operate a thousand mile in and back out without buying fuel here. That means no taxes for the states they run through, no payment for using our interstate system that is financed through fuel and heavy vehicle use taxes. As fuel will cost American trucks twice as much as Mexican how can we compete? We cannot.
    Who is going to pay for the interstate corridor that is planned just for Mexican trucks? We will, not them. What about the rail system that does not yet exist? That is why a hedge fund tried (illegally) to take over CSX corporation.
    And what about the planned port in Mexico? This is the sole reason that NAFTA is a bad idea. This will close all American ports. All imports and exports will go through Mexico to lower cost. Mexican drivers will pick up and deliver all imports with no import export taxes paid to the us by other countries using Mexican diesel at half the cost and paying no taxes for use of our roads and interstates. In effect all import export tax monies will be handed over to Mexico. Who will provide the needed security at this port? NAFTA is meant to cause invisible borders without any security or benefit for American taxpayers. It is not just truckers that will be put out of business but all international shipping. If you have read the NAFTA agreement you are be aware of all this and are advocating that Americans will fund our own economic demise. This is suicide not competition.
     
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  4. Ronnocomot

    Ronnocomot Road Train Member

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    If you say so.

    And this never happened prior to implementation of the Pilot Program? I highly doubt it. That's not a very strong argument against the Program.

    And how many Americans were killed outside of the commercial by legal U.S. citizen truck drivers? Again, that is not a problem that is specific to the Program.

    You'll need to post that link.

    Perhaps you need to read the rules of the Pilot Program, Mexican truckers who participate must obtain insurance from a U.S. based insurance company. How many insurance companies have you dealt with that just let you free on the roads with no strings attached?

    Once again, you obviously failed to read the rules of the Program


    No, it's suicide if that driver insists on trying to compete with them without looking at other segments of the idustry that do not come through Mexico.
    I suppose you think everything that moves by truck in America comes through Mexico.


    And how many other industries besides trucking are trading with Mexico?
    Oh, that's right, truckers are special, to heck with anyone else who might benefit.

    I should, and will, say the same to you.
     
  5. Wen782

    Wen782 Medium Load Member

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    Just because the Mexican companies are "required" to have insurance through US companies and submit to safety checks doesn't mean they don't cheat it out. I know a Landstar driver that God help us all keeps getting passed (for a few extra bucks) on his safety inspections and that Freightshaker should be burned to the ground, not kept on the road!! You can work around it, just like with most everything!
     
  6. Ronnocomot

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    You're pretty new around here, and have not quite earned the right to be giving fellow forum members monikers.
    My financial incentive is to pay the lowest possible price for the stuff I buy.
    Yes they are, from Mexico, back to Mexico. It's cheaper that way.
    What is "that"? You're going to have to learn how to quote.
    I'm aware of the difference between O/O's and company drivers.
    Go ask an Owner Operator searching for a load after sitting for a few days if all drivers are smart. The bottom feeders are slitting the throats of every Owner Operator by accepting loads that are guaranteed to lose money. What would happen if there were no bottom feeders? rates would go up to a point were Owner Operators could haul it at a profit.
    Again, you'll need to learn how to quote, I have no idea what you are referencing.
    Exactly how many loads do you think move by truck in one year in America? 18,000 loads is a drop in the bucket.

    Who puts a gun to a company drives head and says "You must work for 10 cents a mile"?
    If you aren't making enough money at one job, what's the best course of action? Cry about it, or go find a better paying job?
    Again, quotes are your friend.
     
  7. Ronnocomot

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    Wasn't Supreme Court decision was dealing with Treaties? I would not characterize NAFTA as a treaty. I thought the case was about Texas versus the illegal alien found guilty of murder.
    Of course, I could be wrong.

    My suggestion then, to Congress, is to pull out of NAFTA. But the fact remains that NAFTA effects many industries than trucking.
     
  8. tmerr1

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    I don't know about everyone else, but I think a point has been proven here. That point being no matter what facts we bring to the table, ronnocomot is just going be one of those people that is stuck in his own little world. It scares me as it is those types of people that will continue to bring our country down.

    We have all tried to get him to see the "big" picture and he obviously isn't going to see it.

    We can at least all walk away from this knowing what we can benefit from the cross border trucking being stopped.
     
  9. Ronnocomot

    Ronnocomot Road Train Member

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    What "facts" am I missing?
     
  10. tmerr1

    tmerr1 Bobtail Member

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    Go do some research and re-read the posts. We have all just been trying to make points and presented facts to you about how it is in the trucking world. Being married to a trucker, you have to look at the big picture and the trickle down effect. If we have the cross border trucking, it will effect everyone in the long run.

    I have no problem with you having your own beliefs and all, but you just need to understand that being in a trucking family we see the effects of everything faster then someone that isn't directly involved in the trucking industry.

    Maybe go to a truck stop by you and actually talk to some of the hard working truckers.
     
  11. Ronnocomot

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    Where was the outrage about Mexican trucks prior to 1982, when they had unencumbered access to all roads in America?

    You have all posted opinions based on your version of the truth.

    Very few of you seem to have actually read the rules and regulations of the Cross Border Pilot Program.
     
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