Crst help

This guy was dirty for dope that's why he played this game. Tried to pass piss and failed. Never time clean up your life fix yourself then come try and work

 

There's where the problem comes in. Going back to CRST now is moot. He has a REFUSAL. That's the same thing as dirty. That's not with CRST, it's with the feds.

When notified about a random, you have a3 hour window. Refusal carries the exact same consequences as being dirty. If he had pissed dirty yesterday, would they allow him to come back at a later time and try again?

Someone may ask, "Six, how can you be so sure they wont give him a second chance?

That was his second chance and he refused. They had to file the refusal. Had to. Not by company policy or anything...purely federal. Understand what this means now?

Cornbread language time: If he wants to piss in a cup for CRST now, the feds will require him to complete a SAP. He will need a SAP to go to a last chancer like Carolina Cargo. For any commercial job that requires a health card, he will need a SAP.

If he had told us about the retake with a visual and his being nervous about being watched, I would have told him to tell the viewer to pat down his pockets and turn his back. They would have went for that. But now, because of the federal rules that they have to play by, they will have to turn him away without a SAP.

Lurkers, wannabes, students and rookies listen carefully: IF YOU WANT TO DRIVE A CMV OR ARE DRIVING A CMV, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD YOU EVER REFUSE A DRUG SCREEN IF YOU ARE CLEAN. You put yourself into a big world of hurt. Now, if youre dirty, it doesn't matter if you take the test or refuse. I would take the test even if dirty because refusal is instant hanging.

"What's the point of all of this, Six? Beating on the guy?"

Nooo. Time. There's no point in begging, hanging around human resource, petitions to anyone in the CRST organization. You need to go to a SAP program. Begging, writing letters and sending emails to anyone in a trucking office is now a waste of time and resources.

"Six, dont you think that he can find a job at some renegade outfit...?"

I dont know. He would still need a med card at any level3 roadside inspection. That would sink ANY renegade company I know of.

 

Ask CRST if they can have job other than driving.

 

While you're at it, ask them if they will spot you 10 grand just for ####s and giggles.

 

I don't know anyone that has. A few have posted that did, but I don't know their screen name.

He has the diploma from cdl school. What if he just uses that and doesn't mention CRST. "I just graduated from cdl school; here's my diploma; I need a job."

I'm grasping at straws; a conumdrum!

 

I dont know. Its all aligned with the health card part of the process. The whole application process, in any clinic that does DOT physicals are tied in with the CDL itself. In fact, Homeland Security sent me a letter about the expiration date of my DOT card and the date that my CDL privileges are suspended if my med card info isnt turned in.

If i went and paid for it myself, and pissed dirty, I would expect the same thing. Its not the companies, its federal. Every tine you take the screen, they have ALL your info, right? DL number, SS number...etc. They gave to have it before they can do drug screen. Any clinic that does DOT physicals and drug screen. Doesnt matter if you are independent. Same rules. Take CRST out of the equation...doesnt change a thing.

When in my first post, i said that he hung himself, i wasnt kidding.

 

Guy, you can go around and around on this as long as you like but the facts are not going to change. Your only option at this point is SAP. It's going to take you a year of regular and random, clean drug tests and completion of all prescribed courses and treatments before you can get a Return to Duty status and then you're going to find it impossible to get on with any good company and even the lowest of the low...read Carolina Cargo...will tell you to take a hike. Maybe some Craigslist 1099er or one of those Russian Mafia outfits in Chicagoland might give you a shot but the first time you complain about anything you're liable to end up as fish food in Lake Michigan. Good luck to you but the answers aren't changing. @TripleSix is giving it to you straight and so am I...for the moment you have no future in this industry.