He works for UPS Freight. He started this thread (hence the thread title). I'm only answering because sometimes he takes a while to check back in.
Freight and Parcel (or just plain UPS) are totally separate companies with different payscales, union contracts, and driver responsibilities.
UPS Freight Diary:
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Don't forget UPS Truckload that utilizes owner operators, in some instances.Mike2633 Thanks this.
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Just too busy to scan any checks, but i promise i will at least post the year end check.
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Freight.
UPS has at least three different companies under it's umbrella; Small package which is the familiar small brown step vans. Freight--we handle the larger palletized shipments. And then i think there is a logistics branch which just does airport pickup and delivery or something. -
how long have you been full time at ups?
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I ran into one of the air freight guys when I was doing P&D. I think his truck said "UPS Cartage Services", so I asked him what that meant. He said they were originally the air freight company, Emery Worldwide, before UPS bought them, much like UPS Freight was born when they bought Overnite. I'm not sure what the Cartage guys make, but I've heard Truckload is pretty low and non-union.
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Interesting thing about Cartage is how little info there is out there, no job listings, no website, etc. So digging around again, thanks to Bob providing the former name, I found this 9 year old post...http://www.tdu.org/news_ups-cartage-services-teamster-success-not-secure
Quote from it...
Again, old stuff and UPS Freight didn't get blended in, but it shows long-term intent, they'll play the long game in slowly dealing collective bargaining out of the picture.The biggest hole in the August 2005 Addendum covering CSI Teamsters is the exclusion of these units from subcontracting protection. The Addendum bars these Teamsters from protection under Article 1, Section 1, 2, and 4, and Article 32 of the UPS national contract. UPS calls its Cartage Services unit a “vendor” that provides services to its nonunion carrier, UPS Supply Chain Solutions.
So, when the company moves new work through its nonunion carrier and has Teamster work done by nonunion subcontractors or nonunion UPS subsidiaries, the union has no recourse!
And...
The company is preparing to integrate the operations of some of its subsidiaries including UPS Cartage Services, UPS Freight, UPS Freight Forwarding and UPS Supply Chain Solutions.
See the comment at the bottom...
lost my job from the dfw terminal with absolutely no union support. this was in 2012…. How pathetic. Ipaid dues for all those years for nothing…. God I miss the good old Emery Worldwide days!!!!!!!!!!!
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Emery World Wide was originally Consolidated Freightway's Air Freight division. They bought Emery and then ran a couple big contracts for the Post Office in the 1996-1997 years.Pintlehook and speedyk Thank this.
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True enough. I knew a couple of guys that jumped ship to Emory, they loved it but we're doomed for failure. They'd run a guy on a 500 mile turn, loaded 250 and EMPTY on the return trip. Can't make money hauling air.Mike2633 Thanks this.
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I guess there's more than one definition of "air freight"!
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