Ordering Oversize Permits? Check your cc bill for scams.

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  1. true blue

    true blue Medium Load Member

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    My wife ordered some O/D Permits from a legitimate company but on both of our credit card bills she noticed two separate billings of $97.03 by a company calling themselves Permits & Certificates out of CA. Problem is we never did any business with them and after searching the web I found out they are not even a company. They are just a scam outfit hacking into either the state permit office's website or the permit company, I guess. Good thing my wife always checks our credit card and debit card bills every month, matching the charges with all our receipts. Watch out, y'all!
     
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  3. Riprap

    Riprap Light Load Member

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    What permit company did you use that led up to this?
     
  4. true blue

    true blue Medium Load Member

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    WCS - West Coast Services. Can't remember how I got their number. I may have called a number that was in my cell for permits. Maybe it was a company that had been bought out bc I don't recall doing business with WCS before. I had blanket permits for the states I usually ran in the southeast and only occasionally went up to DE or MD with O/D loads. I made enough money running just the southeast and local O/D loads to not have to bother with too many other states.
     
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  5. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    In a world where most banks only allow you 30 days to file a dispute. Out here anyways. Not a good idea to wait for paper billing. And with everyone trying to do paperless billing.

    I know at 8 o clock in the morning, every morning, if something is wrong.
     
  6. Rontonio

    Rontonio Road Train Member

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    I use WCS for all my California state county and city permits, I order a ton of them every month. I have never had an issue with billing from them and I balance every expenditure every month.
     
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  7. TheAussieGuy

    TheAussieGuy Bobtail Member

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    I am not associated with these guys in any way but having had several credit card Merchant accounts in the past I want to ask, Did you also get a charge from WCS on your account? sometimes companies will be "DBA"
    Also they may just be Authorizations and not actual Sales
    I have had this occur sometimes when people have had to try the transaction more than once when some of there information is different to what your bank has on file.
    2 things happen when you use a CC online, first the money is cleared with your bank and a hold put on the amount, there there is a AVS (address verification system) check and then finaly the companies (WCS) processor approves the transaction. If any of your information is incorrect or slightly different to what your bank has on file sometimes the processor will not approve the transaction yet you still will have the hold on your funds that shows in your bank account until it is either released or a sale goes through.
    If they are only Authorizations one will go away (depending on your bank) within 3-7 days and the other will be a completed sale.
    That is only if the above is the case, and it's a pretty common thing.
     
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  8. true blue

    true blue Medium Load Member

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    OK, so I found out that this company, Permits & Certificates out of CA, is actually the company hired by our county sherriff's dept. to collect the fees to process our concealed carry permits. It would have been helpful if our county sherriff had sent us an email telling us the name & location of the company we'd be billed by. We're in NC - how do they expect us to know who this company is?
     
  9. KenworthGuyNH

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    So the scam was not a scam........ except getting hosed paying for a background check for a CC license?
     
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  10. true blue

    true blue Medium Load Member

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    Yup. I think the Cabarrus county sherriff, though he says he supports the right to carry, is not really a big fan of it. The waiting list to get your appt. after the class is taken is about 6 months right now. That's unheard of and their excuse is, they're so backed up. Lame.
     
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