Cottrell 5309 19.5" or 22.5" axles assemblies

AGL · Dec 11, 2016

Terry270 said: ↑

This statement. I just don't know what to say.
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My Bad. Putting 8 cars instead of 7 can add little extra in my pocket, also it's easier to find 8 to 9 cars full load than 7!!!
That's what I meant to say.

AGL · Dec 11, 2016

What is height difference from 19.5 axle option than 22.5 option? Is it 3in or less than that?

Hammer166 · Dec 11, 2016

AGL said: ↑

What is height difference from 19.5 axle option than 22.5 option? Is it 3in or less than that?
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About 1", on the 285, 1.4" on the 265. I don't remember which size they use. Also, I just noticed when I looked up the specs on Michelin's site that they have the 19.5 listed at 62mph max speed now.

AGL · Dec 11, 2016

265 70 19.5

Mr&MrsPete · Dec 12, 2016

I run a 5309 that has been strap converted. Love this trailer. Got mine on 19.5's because you always need that extra inch. Tires are a bi#ch to find so I bought two new ones that sit in my garage. If I ever travel far I slap one on the deck plate. WARNING!!!! This trailer is not for rookies! It will gladly take illegal loads and keep trucking. Shove most of your big heavy stuff to the front. I mostly run 8 car loads but having that 9th position sometimes comes in handy. I have figured out that from the center back, I can fit 12 k lbs of cars and stay legal

Mr&MrsPete · Dec 12, 2016

AGL said: ↑

Please help me to decide which axles should I pick? It will go on a new trailer.
I am also installing a lift kit!
Does it make difference when it comes to loading lower or upper deck? What about height and weight advantages? Are 19.5 axels strong enough for a full load regarding structural issues? What is a difference in a tire wear? maitnance cost?

..... I need to make a right decision here

Also any suggestions with other options like:
Belly Pans
Aluminum flippers
36" Aluminum flippers
Chains or straps?
Did anybody thought about chain and strap combo option? 2 chains 2 straps positioned diagonal
Thank you!!
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I took all my chains off and converted to straps. I haul new cars anyway so no more chains. Saved about 400lbs. Check out automobiletransportsuppy.ca

Mr&MrsPete · Dec 12, 2016

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The 19.5's are rated plenty high enough, but there are other reasons to avoid them. The tires are hard to find, brake parts are ridiculously expensive, and the when I had them they were prone to seize on the hub. It actually took a porta-power to get them off a couple times. Loading height doesn't matter, you can get a dump valve on the trailer to help with approach angles when loading the top (Which isn't a huge issue on that trailer anyways.) But if you haul where 13'6" is a critical issue, that extra bit of tire height might make the difference.

I wouldn't spend the money on aluminum flippers, you weight problems will be the rear axle getting heavy long before you get to gross. I ran one hauling POVs for a while, and only once did I manage to gross it out without the rear axle being heavy. The belly pans are nice if you run where they put a lot of gravel down in winter, and it's nice not to have to worry so much about chain slack dragging.

Something else to consider: That is a very versatile trailer, but it has it's limitations. Except for the back bottom unit, you will move every deck on that trailer to get any unit on/off the trailer. That includes the one on the 5th wheel. The tip deck in the belly is very difficult to chain down, as access is very tight, especially on the right. And that's a chain trailer, I don't think it's available as a strap unit.

As far as combining straps and chains, that's not a good idea. Chains physically hold the vehicle in place, straps mainly increase the traction at the tire. The two aren't interchangeable.

I've not run one, and I hear they're expensive and heavy, but I'd look hard at the CX-5308, especially if you run more cars than trucks. They load quick from what I've seen, and they're a strap unit.

We have a C-5307, and it's not horrible, but too many limitations (especially to a highrail guy like me) for me to ever recommend getting one. If you haul trucks with one, the middle unit's tires fall in the wrong spots, and you'll have to brace the decks where they sit. The angles in the belly are horrible, we can't even load MKZ's or Mustangs in the belly, as they bottom out. The unit backed over the tandem often has to be placed in a less than desirable position to be able to get out of it. You can't really use the belly for trucks: Most of them are too tall to go all the way forward where they need to be.

I'm sure these other guys will have more ideas for you, as some of them like the high-mounts. Me, I'm too much of a stinger guy. And the legal gray area the high-mounts are stuck in is just too much risk for my tastes.
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I looked hard at the CX-5308 before I bought my 5309. Gorgeous design and love the nextgen concept. However, its about $10k more money and even heavier on the back

AGL · Dec 12, 2016

Mr&MrsPete said: ↑

I run a 5309 that has been strap converted. Love this trailer. Got mine on 19.5's because you always need that extra inch. Tires are a bi#ch to find so I bought two new ones that sit in my garage. If I ever travel far I slap one on the deck plate. WARNING!!!! This trailer is not for rookies! It will gladly take illegal loads and keep trucking. Shove most of your big heavy stuff to the front. I mostly run 8 car loads but having that 9th position sometimes comes in handy. I have figured out that from the center back, I can fit 12 k lbs of cars and stay legal[/QUOTE

Thank you for the info!!! Do you have belly pans on yours? I'm not sure yet should I go with that option? Is it going affect my weight? I'm thinking that will give trailer additional structural strength!!
Thanks
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AGL · Dec 12, 2016

Thank you for the info!!! Do you have belly pans on yours? I'm not sure yet should I go with that option? Is it going affect my weight? I'm thinking that will give trailer additional structural strength!!
Thanks

SLANT6 · Dec 12, 2016

A belly pan offers zero structural strength. It helps protect the lower vehicles from rocks and road crap that kicks up. Anything you add to the trailer will increase weight, all depends on what you can live with. Same with pans in the middle of the upper decks. Walk on them and you'll be making a trip to ER.

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