New Job with a bad reference

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by DYOKUM, Dec 19, 2016.

  1. DYOKUM

    DYOKUM Bobtail Member

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    I am 7 months out of driving school. My first driving job was for a company that hauled pre fab housing to construction sites and also hauling trim loads to the same sites. I have had, according to the company, 4 preventable accidents in the 7 months I worked with them. They have recently fired me. I have applied for other jobs and the former employer informed them of the accidents and the companies have backed away from my application. Can anybody inform me as to how to get another driving job with the former employer giving above reference? I appreciate any insight on how to proceed. thanks
     
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  3. street beater

    street beater Road Train Member

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    Wheres your home 20, what kind of driving, what kind of "preventables"
     
  4. Russian

    Russian Bobtail Member

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    4 preventables in 7 months?

    I think trucking is just not for you...

    Learn how to drive something else - a broom? A mop bucket?
     
  5. TequilaSunrise

    TequilaSunrise Medium Load Member

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    If your employer is being lying you could use a lawyer to sue them. But if they are being truthful.... You may need a 1099 job for a while.
     
  6. TequilaSunrise

    TequilaSunrise Medium Load Member

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    Also file for unemployment now. They will get bored with paying your claim and keep their mouth shut maybe.
     
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  7. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    Four preventables is a lot and all at your first company..But hauling to job sites you have to be extra careful.What all did you hit? There's no magic wand thatll help with finding a job.You'll have to look hard and hope someone gives you a chance but anymore it's insurance companies that make the call.
     
  8. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    Put your location on your profile so we know the hiring area you live in.
     
  9. Fatmando

    Fatmando Medium Load Member

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    Yeah, this probably won't work. First off, the employer doesn't pay your claim, the unemployment insurance carrier does (usually a state agency), and it's rare that claims even affect the employer's premiums. Secondly, they most likely reported to DAC/HireRight, and (like a credit agency) they get paid more, if there are more inquiries, so it is in their best interests to talk you down as much as possible. If you have trouble finding work, you'll apply to more places, and if you have to accept work somewhere that you don't really want to be, you'll likely be unhappy there, and be looking for work again, soon. Both result in more job applications, and therefore more DAC inquiries, which means more revenue to the company that is talking you down. Basically, they make their money off of your misery, so they do their best to keep you miserable.

    Whether the "accidents" were really "preventable" or not, is really no longer a consideration. Like your credit reputation, your driving and employment reputations do not really belong to you; they belong to the agencies which make money by selling information about you, and those agencies make more money by treating you as a number, and poorly. Your best bet is ultimately to get away from having people check up on you this way. In the credit world, that means getting away from institutional borrowing and lending. As a driver, it may mean getting your own truck, and doing the owner-operator thing - or it may mean getting out of the industry. It may not be fair, but four preventables in your first 7 months looks bad to the next employer's insurance company, and ultimately, any potential employer will have to answer to some actuary that you will never get to see or talk to, at their insurance company. To that guy, you aren't a person with a story to tell; you're a numbered risk factor with unfavorable statistics.

    It's not fair, and it's not good news, but it is what you're up against.

    Do file for unemployment insurance. Besides the possibility that your former employer won't fight you (so you'll get some temporary income); there is the possibility that they *will* fight you, giving you a chance to get their mistreatment of you, documented by a "disinterested third party" - which may give you some traction to get their misstatements about you, redacted/retracted. It may take a lawsuit, or perhaps just the threat of one, but if the unemployment office rules that you were terminated for no cause, then the safety argument that they fired you for hitting things, looks like a lie - and if they fight your claim for unemployment insurance, then the unemployment office will examine evidence and make an independent determination, which they will send to you, in writing. That's usable ammunition...
     
  10. ExOTR

    ExOTR Windshield Chipper Extraordinaire

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    Did you actually hit anything? Or did they tag you with preventables for damaging cargo using a donkey?
    Had a friend have the same issue delivering prefab walls for red iron homes, he somehow managed to puncture a wall using the donkey and they fired him and reported it as an preventable accident. He ended up paying an attorney 1000$ to file a libel civil suit, didn't ever actually make it to court before they agreed to stop reporting it as an accident.
     
  11. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Challenge everything on your DAC/HireRight report. You might be able to get some of your bad info removed. It's free and you have the right.
     
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