E-logs for hotshots
Discussion in 'Expediter and Hot Shot Trucking Forum' started by paulpost, Feb 7, 2016.
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If you are suppose to run e logs then what about using your truck on your days off?
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Its quite apparent from a couple of posts here that have quoted the regs, I am wrong in what I thought was one exemption.
I had the understanding that a company that only owned & or operated ONLY ONE CMV was exempt from using E-Logs. Hummmm. again, its quite apparent I was misinformed or didn't understand correctly. Anyone want to add to this? -
I was talking with another driver yesterday and he also thought that one truck companies were exempt. Maybe someone can clarify this.Grumppy Thanks this. -
Driveaway-towaway operation means an operation in which an empty or unladen motor vehicle with one or more sets of wheels on the surface of the roadway is being transported:
(1) Between vehicle manufacturer's facilities;
(2) Between a vehicle manufacturer and a dealership or purchaser;
(3) Between a dealership, or other entity selling or leasing the vehicle, and a purchaser or lessee;
(4) To a motor carrier's terminal or repair facility for the repair of disabling damage (as defined in § 390.5) following a crash; or
(5) To a motor carrier's terminal or repair facility for repairs associated with the failure of a vehicle component or system; or
(6) By means of a saddle-mount or tow-bar.
(note the restriction, "with one or more sets of wheels on the surface of the roadway" will eliminate any means of transport where no wheels of the cargo touch the roadway)
FMCSA guidelines
https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/title49/section/390.5
Question 22: Is a motor vehicle drawing a non-self-propelled mobile home that has one or more set of wheels on the roadway, a driveaway-towaway operation?
Guidance: Yes, if the mobile home is a commodity. For example, the mobile home is transported from the manufacturer to the dealer or from the dealer or other seller to the buyer.
Question 23: Can a truck tractor drawing a trailer be a driveaway-towaway operation?
Guidance: Yes, if the trailer is a commodity. For example, the trailer is transported from the manufacturer to the dealer or from the dealer or other seller to the buyer.
FMCSA Exemption
https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/faq/what-exceptions-are-allowed-electronic-logging-device-rule
Drivers who conduct drive-away-tow-away operations, where the vehicle being driven is the commodity being delivered.Last edited: Dec 23, 2016
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In addition, I have noticed if while I am at home one of our mechanics does some work on my truck and drives it without logging in themselves, when I get back to the truck and log in, I get a message that says something to the effect of "this truck was driven for XXX miles on mm/dd/yyyy. Did you drive the truck?" I just click "no" and go about my business. That driving just seems to disappear somewhere and never shows up on my logs. -
I won't be going to elogs until the very end of this year.
Does anyone have any other recommendations on which ones there running? -
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Basically when you enter the "Personal Conveyance" mode the area of location is now broadened.
How does the electronic logging device reflect personal conveyance when the personal conveyance status is selected and the commercial motor vehicle (CMV) is driven?
All miles driven are recorded, regardless of the status the driver has selected. However, when the personal conveyance status is selected (as allowed and configured by the motor carrier), the CMV’s location is recorded with a lower level of precision (i.e., an approximate 10-mile radius). Personal conveyance will be reflected on the ELD using a different style line (such as dashed or dotted line).
If a driver is permitted to use a Commercial Motor Vehicle (CMV) for personal reasons, how must the driving time be recorded?
The driver must identify the driving time as personal conveyance on the device.
How does "personal use" of a commercial motor vehicle need to be recorded?
If a commercial motor vehicle (CMV) driver uses a CMV for personal conveyance, the time may be recorded as "off duty" if certain conditions are met. If a driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work, time spent traveling from the driver's home to his/her terminal (normal work reporting location), or from the driver's terminal to his/her home, may be considered off-duty time. Similarly, time spent traveling short distances from a driver's en-route lodgings (such as terminals or motels) to restaurants in the vicinity of such lodgings may be considered off-duty time. Drivers may not, however, operate a laden CMV as a personal conveyance. Also, a driver placed out of service for violating the hours-of-service regulations may not drive a CMV to any location to obtain rest.Last edited: Jan 3, 2017
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