Changes coming to the DOT physical....

Unfortunately this is true.


Ed

 

That, and if they would make it so Healthcare could be bought from any provider you wanted regardless of statelines, open the market and let them compete for your business.

Been to your local racetrack many times Duurtipoker, lots of good memories.

 

Amen to that. I've never understood why the "United States of America" is so different state to state on so many things. Not very united if you ask me lol.

The drag strip or dirt track?


Ed

 

Dirt track. I lived in Delaware for 20 yrs and was over there often.

 

I don't believe just because they are MD they are correct or even have our best interest in mind. I'm willing to look at new stuff. That's why I point out how they score a SA test. You can't just say no it's scam without your proof of why. You explain how when people stop breathing that has no effect. I looked at REM sleep a little and people with SA never seem to go into REM because their brain is really up all night working/trying to make you breath. If you know the answer then tell us ? You also should be willing to say I don't know the answer or go find the answer then tell us. Maybe it doesn't affect you in anyway but you should be able to look and say maybe more drivers have SA then they think. How to you explain people not going into REM sleep ?

 

The scam is in two parts. First, by stating "there is a problem" without quantifying the problem. We know there are SOME drivers with apnea, and we know that of that, unquantified, number, SOME drivers will pose an increased risk, which, of course, is also unquantified.

If someone tries to sell you a product, and you don't know if it benefits you, and if it does benefit you, whether it makes any difference in the end, would you buy it?

So in response to this triple conjecture, the most expensive, intrusive, and time consuming regulation is thrust upon commercial drivers.

The second part of the scam is the sleep tests. If you know a little bit about them, you know that different machines give different results, and an "event" is not an objective number. It's an interpretation of human behavior. To say a sleep test is objective is simply misleading.

I have relatives with both obstructive and non-obstructive apnea. IF you have it, corrective action makes a huge difference. However, the scams swirling about this part of the medical world are huge, and everyone should be cautious when stepping into this particular swamp.

 

The events don't seem to have much to much inturputation. You can see them on a sleep test report if someone goes to a sleep lab and is hooked up you can see they have stopped breathing . Just like you can see when someone is really sleeping from the sleep test. If someone has a CPAP you can also see if the machine is helping you because you can see if you stop breathing aslo. All you have do is look at you sleep DATA and you can see were you stopped breathing. It seem pretty clear to me the line goes up and down with every breath. Then you see the line is not moving for 10 seconds or more when someone stop breathing. I'm not sure why you think that's an interpretation. You home CPAP can show that data if you pull out the card and download the data.

As far as the benefits or lives save from drivers that drive tires that a hard number to get because so many factors. When you have a government who's job is to stop every death possible. They will keep looking for the next thing that might save life's. It's a never ending problem.

As far as someone selling you a product that has no benefit. That kinda a no correct answers. Do you need ABS brakes on a truck and trailer. No, you might never use them in you life time. They passed a law that say you should have them even if you don't need them. Just in case you do and because the computer and ABS system can do a better job then human. Does sleep apnea if corrected save people lives. It probably does but if some never get in accident because they are not sleepy. It like we never will know the answer. I think it come down to how much are we willing to do in the name of safety. Do we as a society want check drivers for sleep apnea and maybe avoid more accidents ?

 

Did you really just say we have a government whos job it os to stop every death possible? Wth?! Everyone has some level of sa, if it were a problem, we would have data from the past decades, ahh but we dont. Cpap doesn't mean a non drowsy driver. Especially if the machine makes their sleep, restless. Oh sure, the machine stoped dm from the sa symptoms, but with a side affect of no real rem... sa tests for all or none. Your 16 year old needs a sa test. Why? Because drowsy driving kills. Right? Gmab

 

No, that is NOT the government's job! The role of government is strictly defined within the text of the Constitution. All powers NOT enumerated by the Constitution to the federal government are reserved for the states and the people. It is YOUR responsibility to protect YOUR OWN life, not the bureaucrats in DC whom you have never met and don't care a lick about you. Grown men shouldn't need big government as a babysitter to keep them "safe".

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin

 

"You can trust me! I'm from the government, and I'm here to help you!"