Tall loads
Discussion in 'Heavy Haul Trucking Forum' started by m16ty, Dec 29, 2016.
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I think that we can all agree that it can be done, IF the buyers aren't on a tight time schedule and they have REALLY deep pockets.
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Platforms are expressed in "lines" instead of axles. That's because the axles are on "pods". The axles are about 3' long, suspension is hydraulic, single point attached in the center of each short axle between the 4 tires, and the pods rotate for steering. There are two axle pods per line, so 8 tires per line. Because the suspension is hydraulically controlled every wheel carries it's equal portion of weight regardless of trailer deflection or ground contour.
Platforms are "endless". The front of one pins into the back of another, and the hydraucs connect for uniformity across the entire configuration. What I mean by endless is you could literally continuously add as many lines as required. You can also run two platforms side by each with simultaneous. control.
They can be pulled and pushed by trucks, longer distances do this. Then when spatial restrictions of site work and precision control is required, attach a power pack and the unit becomes self propelled operated via remote control. With SPMT mode and individual pod steering control, you can literally rotate that entire unit on the spot 180*.
Simply put, they're frickin awesome pieces of equipment, with pretty frickin awesom price tags!
Yes some operators will play with them like R/C cars, you can find the YouTube vids...Last edited: Jan 1, 2017
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Pretty much anything is doable with the right amount of money & time.
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That load looks very similar to what I'm dealing with.
I did some thinking about this today. We are going to move it on site with a 12 line platform trailer. 12 lines aren't even loaded good with that kind of weight on-site but there is no way any state that I know of would let you take it down the road like that. We have hauled 240,000 LB on 6 lines but it was a very short haul ( less than 2 miles) and no bridges to cross.
I'm thinking two 10 lines may work, depending on each state's laws. Goldhofers run about 7,500 LB empty weight per axle line, that would be 230,000 + 150,000 = 380,000 LB or 19,000 LB per axle line. The only problem with that is you would need it mounted on bolsters on each end, increasing you height on a already too high load.
In my opinion, the US is way behind the times when it comes to platform trailers. Bridge loads aside, every state should allow you at least 40,000 LB per axle line. The way a platform trailer works, they will do far less damage to a road at 40K per line than say a fixed 3 axle group at 20K per axle. With the steerable axles of a platform trailer, you have virtually no scrubbing going around curves. You do get into concentrated bridge loads when you start really loading platform trailers but that can be solved with spacer decks or bolsters. Most platform trailers themselves are rated in the 30-35 metric ton range per line for capacity.
You also have to be really careful about grade changes when you start getting longer than around 12 lines. You have roughly 12" plus or minus suspension travel (actually +/- 300mm), you never want to bottom out or hyper extend a axle line when loaded. The frames aren't all that rigid and rely on equal loading of all lines to keep everything together.
Platform trailers also have a nasty habit of turning over if the operator isn't watching what he's doing with high CG loads. You've got to keep the platform level on high CG loads, if not you run the risk of overloading one side of the trailer and over she goes. Platform trailers are usually setup on a "three point" configuration. Without getting all technical, just imagine a 3 legged stool. This is mainly done to keep from twisting the trailer and making sure all axles carry the same load. You can set it up on a "four point" configuration which is more stable but this is mainly only used on job sites at very low speeds, due to axle overload concerns and the extra operator control to keep from overloading axles and platform twist.kylefitzy, PeteyFixAll, Ruthless and 5 others Thank this. -
Then you can also have the liftable dollies to spread the load out even more when the width of the roadway allows for it.
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Very nice "educational overview" @m16ty! Thanks for that. I don't operate them, I'm just around them a lot.
My understanding @soloflyr those are more for stability than load distribution. As @m16ty's explanation above shows you can put so much load on those things that it's not hard to make them unstable, particularly because they add height increasing COG unlike a typical RGN type wagon.PeteyFixAll and Oxbow Thank this. -
The dollies you see in Solo's pic are nothing more than house moving dollies attached to a beam. They are mostly used to turn a platform trailer into a dual lane, to spread out the weight. You see them raised in the pic, they will be lowered whenever a bridge or other underground obstruction is encountered. They caster steer so will follow wherever the trailer takes them.
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I guess I'm still not sure why you couldn't use a Goldhofer with a girder, it would be long but shouldn't be as long as a traditional 19 axle and more maneuverable. You might have bridge concentration issues depending on number of axles but it would bring the height way down.
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You could be right. I have zero experience with girder setups.
If setup like the pics above, it's pretty much going to be walking speed all the way across the country. You can get Goldhofers up to about 45 mph but not something with that high of CG.Last edited: Jan 2, 2017
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