This post will really show my age; however, the time has come for the DOT to regulate a certain number of regulated truck stops in most states. When I first started OTR driving in 1960, rest time rules were something a driver – should – follow, - but use your own judgement. Most of us just swallowed more Bennys and kept on going with two logs on the go. (The older drivers will remember those little pink pills). When we did need sleep, we parked anywhere we could get 62 feet of rig into. Most OTR rigs in those days were teamed drivers, so a parked, on the road sleep was a rare occurrence.
Today, there are more than 200 times the rigs on the highways and most of the major hwys are built for trucking, and at higher speeds, however, the places for 65’ - 70’ + parking is falling behind the distance between viable trucker’s rest stops.
The rules of driving times (e-logs) have choked a OTR driver’s ability to run beyond ten hours, so often truckers are caught between rest points with no place to park. There also needs to be a change in how the ten hour driving time is regulated. If a driver is caught twenty or thirty miles from a truck stop in heavy urban traffic, what happens? The DOT nails the driver’s ### to the wall. With DOT truck stops at designated intervals between major centers, - with allowances for an extra hour or so for a driver to reach that truck stop- it would eliminate thousands of truckers being nailed for too many OTR hours. It would also help drivers to get those much needed miles per day to earn half decent mileage pay.
We just need a lobby center made up of OTR drivers to put pressure on DOT to actually sit down with the drivers to listen to what is needed to create a balance between the two factions.
It's Time For The DOT To Step In
Discussion in 'Truck Stops' started by Snow Walker, Jan 7, 2017.
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I hear you, driver. There needs to be more state sanctioned high-capacity parking areas in certain areas where lack of parking is a serious issues as well as to address the need for "nearby staging areas" close to high-volume freight hubs.
But you have to admit that the major truck stop chains are building at phenomenal rates. Their biggest limitation is not being able to build where they would like to build (and where the trucking industry needs truck stop facilities) due to zoning and permit limits.
But the HOS rules as they currently stand are not as completely unworkable as you make them out to be. Furthermore, many will argue they don't want to work more than 9-10 hours a day. The major carrier players pretty much dictate what happens from a bureaucracy standpoint. No bureaucrat will see the need to deal with "drivers" when they're already dealing with the "trucking industry" (execs from Swift, Schneider, Hunt, CRST, Werner, England, etc)gentleroger and Short Fuse EOD Thank this. -
There is no incentive for a PRIVATE corporation to build a truck stop in a large metropolitan area where demand for truck parking is high. Acreage is insane to purchase, then the property taxes are through the roof. Sales taxes and local fuel taxes price the merchandise and fuel above what most would be willing to pay. Without enough revenue coming in to be profitable, the truck stop closes. Then, you have the issue of idle restrictions and other local ordinances that become a nuisance to have to deal with. It just isn't worth it to build or maintain a large truck stop with ample parking.
A truck stop is a business, and like ALL businesses, it has to be profitable to run. If it isn't profitable, it closes...and no amount of federal regulations will make it any different.Grumppy and drvrtech77 Thank this. -
Fine. Build a structure big enough to hold a thousand trucks in a heated and cooled situation. Park em inside.
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Why would it have to be a heated facility? Sooner or later, and as the trucking industry grows to more and more trucks on the road, the gov. will be forced to step in and do some changing of regulations or land grabbing. Gone are the days of being able to park where ever there is room to pull into or along side the hwy.
Yes the acreage to build something like the I-80 is going to be expensive; however, the DOT's HOS rules have really put a big squeeze on room to park for the night. Things have backed off since 2008, however trucking is on the upswing again and parking has again become a premium. As the space to park demand grows, where is an OTR driver going to take his/her 10 hr break?
Though I miss the highway years, I don't envy the up and coming Hwy Cowboys who will be facing a rapidly growing rest stop demand but won't find a place to park.Boardhauler and thejackal Thank this. -
Well, a lot of states wont allow trucks over night in their rest area's. That's where the fed & state gov should open up to allow trucks to park. If the feds are going to have these rules on breaks etc, they need to build & allow truck to park in rest area's. They shouldn't build anything with less than 50 truck spaces for over night parking. If the feds have to subsidize the states to get these built, they should do so if they are going to mandate these type rules. They need to ensure there is enough parking available for use before they ever enforce rules like this.
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They do need to step in, but not where parking is concerned. They need to step in where PAY and scheduling are concerned.
Many OTR drivers feel compelled to drive for their full 11 hours, because their paycheck will suffer if they don't. Many companies schedule delivery times down to the bare minimum needed with no wiggle room, and then penalize the driver if they don't make the delivery on time. Many receivers will hold a driver for 4+ hours (unpaid by the company), and then not allow on-site parking for a 10 hour break, nor provide adequate facilities to accommodate that break.
These things need to be addressed. Not parking.RebelChick, thejackal, slavcha and 1 other person Thank this. -
They need in to thin the herd a bit, try getting rid of 30% of the marginal drivers and 20% of the marginal companies which will allow the rates to rise and parking be avialible again.
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How is higher pay going to reduce the need for parking spaces to take breaks? Doesn't make any difference if drivers are paid 30 cents or 90 cents, they still have to honor the HOS rules because few can be home every night, regardless. Trucks/drivers working fewer hours will only require more trucks to be packed into the system because the US freight logistics demands require x number of loads be moved every day. I'd rather have fewer drivers making better money then more drivers making marginal money, and clogging the system that much more.
Make the American citizen eat less, use less toilet paper, and have fewer choices at the store might be a solution
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