Looking for real world feedback on the PACAR MX 13

My opinion of MHC stealerships is the same as my view of Streakin beacon. Wouldn't let either one touch or work on a vehicle of any type. Your right they are not worth a ****.

 

What can i say,,, pacar has launched a genius add campaign, they must have an army of people wiping out the bad hipe!

 

Thanks dealership guy

 

I believe dogal is an IC for Schneider so he is giving real world results and not Paccar propaganda.

 

Had one in a 2015 389 and loved it. Running eastern seaboard id be running tandem tandem grossed out and it just purred along in the hills in VA/WV no problem. In Canada I'd usually be pulling trains with it(120-140,000 lbs gross) and again, it just plugged away, happy as a pig in shhhht.

Used to get a check engine light once in awhile due to a pipe being cracked off the back side of the turbo but it never effected performance and once it was replaced, it was clean as a whistle.

 

one thing i've notice is that all the guys writing positive statements about the pacar, or any new truck, have only been driving them for a short while and/or are company drivers. let them rewrite their statement after they have 500,000miles on it. and particularly if they own it and are flipping the bills for the repairs. they won't because they are all leased, company trucks that get traded in well before that point and they don't have to pay for big ticket repairs which are covered under extended warranties(that they paid an extra $20,000 for). in my opinion, and in reality... the pacar engines are are the worst engines on the planet(but that's like saying what would you prefer? a kick in your left nut or your right)... hence the most expensive to run on a used, owner operator platform. I've got the receipts to prove it. you will experience ridiculous repair costs, lots of down time and many sleepless nights due to financial hardships to you and your loved ones. particularly if you are paid by the mile owner. sadly however, this is becoming the norm, not the exception, with all the newer style trucks. when companies like pacar get away with inferior products they prove to the other truck makers that you don't have to produce a good product to make lots of money. you just have to pass the buck. unfortunately the lease business is what helps drives the trucking industries buck passing. very few companies would be in business without them. their would be absolutely no owner operators. trucks are not made to last like they used to .... they are only required to "last" as long as the original lease does. let the poor idiots who want to own the truck after that worry about it. that's called "Externalization". big corporations have teams of experts working on how to pass the cost on to the consumers and tax payers for the lack of quality in their products. their offices are located right next to the risk management teams(lawyers). in fact they are one in the same. these "how to get away with producing cheap products without being sued" guys are some of the highest payed employees/consultants of any large conglomerate corporation such as pacar. pacar has announced that it has had record growth in the past few years... one would wonder how they have managed to sell a singe vehicle given their track record with the mx series platform. you would think that no one, in their right mind would even consider buying one. and they don't... they lease them. they have big enough truck fleets to absorb the down time. and of coarse they don't have to pay the driver a dime as long as the down time is at home. or less than 24-48hrs. and if he's an o/o they don't need to worry about anything. trucking companies have learned how to "pass the buck" as well. unfortunately there is no where to "pass the buck" when you own one of these spruce gooses, that's off warranty. the money comes strait out of your families wallet... your only option... work more. but the more you work the more wear and tear hence... the more the repair costs. the miles rack up faster but the payments remain at the same duration. so the truck is worth even less at resale due to high miles. this is compounded when a pacar equipped truck is considered to be "hi mileage" at 500k. in essence your buying a truck that has already completed it's expected life... but you've just leased it for the next three years. with no hope of being able to keep it running. this will, and is true for all newer stile trucks regardless of their engine make. because all the manufacturers will follow suit. that's a given. they want "record sales" as well. they are legally bound to do everything in their power to increase the wealth of their investors. and they will.
up till now this has all been fact. now for my own opinion:
ANY ONE considering becoming a used truck owner of any truck built past 2007 is absolutely out of their mind. you will loose! any one considering purchasing a new truck is also completely out of their mind. the resale on them is horrible and you will loose... big! Anyone considering leasing a new truck is also out of their minds... you will work around the clock to pay the lease and be left with nothing to show for it at the end... and you will loose... a smaller amount! either way the buck stops at the driver... it's time for drivers to "pass the buck" and stop driving by the mile as o/o. let the companies start paying for their own equipment again. if you really need to be a truck owner... buy a pre 2007 truck, stay at home and run as an independent hauling gravel during the day and get your weekends off...and do it by the hour! even better, remain a company driver with no worries other than what kind of beer your going to have when your shift is over... and do it by the hour, with overtime... never by the mile. and when the truck breaks down enjoy your downtime rather than worrying about which kid isn't going to college so you can fix your truck. if you must buy a truck... do so only if you can pay for it up front... no credit. your going to need every dime you make, and then some to keep it operating.
once again... just my humble opinion.

 

Have you get the century issue with wiring fixed? I'm having the same problem need some help here

 

What's the problem?

 

Low power, runs hot, MPG 4.7 some time it runs just perfect but go back and forth, I'v notice that sometimes on a hard right turn it maker it to go better the engine starts working better. I'v done an inframe, turbo, all the emissions stuff at Detroit dealer, spend 3 weeks 15k in freightliner in Tucson after trying to find out the problem still the same